"Now that Linux is the most popular free Unix-like operating system, it shouldn't be a surprise that some projects have begun treating non-Linux operating systems as second-class citizens. This isn't out of contempt for the BSDs or OpenSolaris, it's just a matter of limited manpower: if almost all the users of the application have a Linux operating system and if all the core developers are using Linux themselves, it's difficult to keep supporting other operating systems. But sometimes the choice to leave out support for other operating systems is explicitly made, e.g. when the developers want to implement some innovative features that require functionality that is (at least for now) only available in the Linux kernel."
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Member since:2010-05-19
Gibberish few people can understand, or non-gibberish few people can understand, but has the chance of being translated?
Which of these sounds worse?
Seriously, google translate can do better than some of these people...
I put quite a bit of effort in to anything I write, so that what I mean is clear. If I'm posting something in, say, Japanese, I take a good deal of time to make sure I'm using words that pertain to the subject at hand, and that my grammar isn't borked beyond understanding.
It's plain rude to expect people to sift through garbage to find what you mean. I wouldn't do it to anyone else, nor will I tolerate it.
If one refuses to post anything intelligible, be it in English or otherwise, then they shouldn't post anything whatsoever.
Hell, have someone translate it for you.
If someone came up to you and started angrily shouting gibberish at you, you'd tell them to fuck off.
If they were _polite_ and were speaking gibberish, and you spoke 4 languages, you'd ask what their first language was, so you'd have a chance of understanding what they were trying to get across.
This humanoid is _trolling_ and making zero valid points, and I'm still offering to hear them out.
Member since:2005-07-07
Which of these sounds worse?
actually, in 99.99% you only need to go a bit away and reread the statement. translating always requires interaction
obviously you never saw how google translates my native language into english. compared to that translation, i'm willing to bet that OP can qualify for perfect english spoken person
there are first class citizens in google translate and there are second class, my country is in second
you mean you put a lot in grammar. there is still yet to be seen one sensible post that makes solid point.
lol, you should really listen to your self more
he didn't troll (rough translation of his post at the end), in fact if i compare his and your statements. he did make a valid point, while you were successfully spouting nonsense in perfect english. truth be told, i had to bother my self actually trying to understand his statement, while yours cannot be understood even after rereading them. (taking OP thread only in this account)
p.s. note to Thom /sorry, couldn't resist being sarcastic/
if you ever decide to post articles in your native language, at least make one last warning in english so i can remove my bookmark
p.p.s. here is rough translation of post that OP made (sorry, if i change some things and even more sorry if it doesn't fit your english criteria, i can make same post in my language and use google translate, but i doubt you could make sense of anything, i can't)
bsd doesn't invent, they don't even try to include something unless it is set in stone
linux on the other hand is all about innovation and new things
beside both being free (and even there they differ as one propose freedom for user and ones for software), they don't have one thing in common as they work on completely different development approach. sure, it started with posix and so on... trouble is, paths they choose how to achieve their goal are completely different
now, if bsd has not enough users... maybe they should rethink their approach, either focus on servers where stability is preferred or adapt to the fact that desktops have new needs every day and stagnation doesn't really work. it is a pure nonsense to demand world stagnation just because it doesn't fit your view.
in fact... isn't this just the same as natural selection where one species simply goes dodo? and more adaptable species survives? news for you, standing your ground while demanding support and recognition is not adapting. especially if only mediocre number of users actually uses your product
also, OP mentioned how this relates to gnome/kde/canonical fiasco from few days. yes, it is exactly like that. goals and paths differ and there is no right or wrong side simply because all sides have its vision.
now, my 2 cents and my personal opinion, foss developers should really look at the nature. natural selection is one way to select the right one. more competition with weeding out the weakest links could only bring faster development and less fragmentation
Edited 2011-03-12 15:54 UTC
Member since:2010-05-19
Also, I'm sick of English being treated as the global lingua franca.
I grew up with it, and every language I've studied since has made more sense (save what little Spanish I've picked up, but that's all informal).
I wonder what the next one will be? we (humanity) will find out in a few hundred years. The status quo cannot last.
Member since:2010-03-08
Try the German or the French grammar and see if it makes more sense than English to you 
Although my personal favorite in terms of grammar is Japanese, English is not bad either. It has those silly irregular verbs, granted, but that's about it. No feminine and masculine objects, articles are not randomly modified depending on their position in the sentence and the time of the day, modal verbs are used properly instead of creating a different way to conjugate verbs for each use case people have come up with, transcribing oral English to text is fairly straightforward...
Edited 2011-03-12 15:46 UTC
Member since:2009-08-18
English makes perfect sense if you are English, much like any other languages I would expect.
There are oddities but that is because we been invaded by the Romans, the Saxons, the Vikings, The Normans etc etc.
Also many people don't speak English, they Speak "American English" IMO. Words are pronounced wrong quite often because "it make more sense" ... what they don't get is that ... this isn't the point, it is a language oddity.
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2005-07-24
What a terrible idea.