Linked by Dedoimedo on Thu 17th Mar 2011 23:17 UTC
Debian and its clones Writing about Debian is not a simple thing. You know it's the giant that has spawned pretty much every other distro out there. It's almost like a Roman Empire, almost a taboo. Furthermore, it's not a desktop distro per se. It's more sort of a template you use to build your platform. It's also a SOHO server distro, therefore it more fits into the business category, comparable to CentOS and similar.
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Comment by muszek
by muszek on Fri 18th Mar 2011 00:18 UTC
muszek
Member since:
2007-04-25

I'm pretty sure Debian devs assumed that members of their target audience own an ethernet cable.

Debian puts a strong emphasis on free software. If your NIC has only proprietary drivers, then its not supported out of the box.

If you can't handle manual partitioning, this distro is not for you. Nobody says its for everybody (and no, it's not for me either).

Last week I wanted to install XP on my old laptop to give it to a friend of mine. XP SP3 asked me for a _floppy_ with SCSI drivers. Guess how many floppy drives that laptop has...

Edited 2011-03-18 00:20 UTC

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RE: Comment by muszek
by Drumhellar on Fri 18th Mar 2011 00:23 in reply to "Comment by muszek"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Luckily, using nLite, it's pretty easy to add a SCSI driver to the install CD so it's supported.

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RE: Comment by muszek
by Soulbender on Fri 18th Mar 2011 00:30 in reply to "Comment by muszek"
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2005-08-18

If you can't handle manual partitioning, this distro is not for you. Nobody says its for everybody (and no, it's not for me either).


Dude, it's 2011. Specialization is for suckers, every OS need to cater to only the smallest common denominator. Requiring actual skills? Heresy! Having a target audience that isn't Joe Sixpack and his dog Mullet? Nonsense!

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RE[2]: Comment by muszek
by Drumhellar on Fri 18th Mar 2011 00:38 in reply to "RE: Comment by muszek"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Dude. I wish I had named my dog Mullet.

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RE[2]: Comment by muszek
by Phucked on Fri 18th Mar 2011 00:54 in reply to "RE: Comment by muszek"
Phucked Member since:
2008-09-24

I see what you did there....

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RE: Comment by muszek
by Morgan on Fri 18th Mar 2011 03:09 in reply to "Comment by muszek"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Debian puts a strong emphasis on free software. If your NIC has only proprietary drivers, then its not supported out of the box.


I know I'm repeating myself, but I feel the need to point out that both wireless devices I use have fully open source drivers and are supposed to have native support in the kernel for some time now. Ubuntu recognizes and autoconfigures them, Slackware recognizes them and allows me to manually configure them without issue.

However, Debian Squeeze tells me that I don't even have a wireless device installed with either one plugged in. I can see them enumerated in dmesg, but any attempt to make them do anything is met with null. I could understand if they only worked in Ubuntu and not Slackware, but if Slack picks them up and Debian doesn't there must be something gravely wrong with Debian.

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RE[2]: Comment by muszek
by canadianlinuxnerd on Fri 18th Mar 2011 03:59 in reply to "RE: Comment by muszek"
canadianlinuxnerd Member since:
2006-06-14

I believe your issue may stem from Debian's choice to include a fully open source kernel, the Linux project devs have chosen to interpret the GPL as allowing proprietary firmware to be included in the vanilla kernel. Debian has chosen to distribute a default kernel with the proprietary firmware removed, as I recall this had to do with compliance with the Debian Free Software guidelines. If this were the issue it would explain things working in Slackware which as I understand it distributes a pretty much stock Linux project kernel, including the proprietary firmware.

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RE: Comment by muszek
by someone on Sat 19th Mar 2011 15:53 in reply to "Comment by muszek"
someone Member since:
2006-01-12

Well, XP is also a decade old

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