Linked by Dedoimedo on Thu 17th Mar 2011 23:17 UTC
Debian and its clones Writing about Debian is not a simple thing. You know it's the giant that has spawned pretty much every other distro out there. It's almost like a Roman Empire, almost a taboo. Furthermore, it's not a desktop distro per se. It's more sort of a template you use to build your platform. It's also a SOHO server distro, therefore it more fits into the business category, comparable to CentOS and similar.
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robgarth
Member since:
2006-04-30

Debian didn't include the required firmware? Boohoo it never will.

Other Linuxes work? Use them. Of course without Debian you wouldn't have a base for most of those distros.

I run a large linux infrastructure. We have a policy of being distribution agnostic. I run Fedora on my Laptop, I suggest Ubuntu to most people. But on every server possible, I prefer Debian. It is sane, it is stable. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but why would I want them on my servers?

This should not have been published.

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zlynx Member since:
2005-07-20

It never will?

Stupid. It used to, until the same people who write Hurd (used it lately?) decided the standard Linux kernel wasn't "pure" enough for them.

Now it sounds as if they've made Debian as useless as Hurd.

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robgarth Member since:
2006-04-30

You are free to install anything you want from non-free. It just wont be included on the installer.

It is harder in Fedora. You need to use a third-party repo.

I use Free distros. I like that they are free. If I want to taint them, I can but I appreciate the policies. Not suiting you, doesn't make it stupid.

Edited 2011-03-18 03:54 UTC

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sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

If you want to change Debian policy the matter is simple to do: Become a Debian Developer (this may take 1.5 years) and then convince a majority of Debian Developers that the policy is incorrect, then propose a vote, then win the vote, then work with your fellow developers to do the packaging work necessary to fix the problem.

This will take you at least 2 years, more likely you'll find that the majority of Debian developers don't agree with you and want to keep their kernel free.

You could also choose to build a Debian-based distribution where you provide your own kernel and related packages. This would be a lot simpler, more like the 6 month time frame, but would get you what you want: Debian without the "pure" kernel. Go for it! Debian permits it and I encourage you to do this.

Don't make the mistake of thinking this is some small cabal of loonies who are screwing it up for the rest of us. The majority of DDs support this and quite a few us users do as well.

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