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Debian and its clones Writing about Debian is not a simple thing. You know it's the giant that has spawned pretty much every other distro out there. It's almost like a Roman Empire, almost a taboo. Furthermore, it's not a desktop distro per se. It's more sort of a template you use to build your platform. It's also a SOHO server distro, therefore it more fits into the business category, comparable to CentOS and similar.
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nt_jerkface
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2009-08-26

The network adapter in a laptop is a backup in case a wireless signal is nowhere to be found

It can also be used when no wireless driver is to be found. Plugging a laptop into a router really isn't a big deal. I've had to do it with XP numerous times.

Neither does Slackware claim such support, but it's there.

Well you would have to make a comparison with multiple cards to make a convincing argument. But even if you concluded that Slackware has better wireless support.....so what? I don't know why the hell anyone would go with Debian if hardware support is a priority. As with FreeBSD I would assume that it would need some extra tweaking for wireless, hence installing with ether.

Why is it so hard to admit that Debian Squeeze has some bugs to be fixed? My god, it's a mainstay of Linux and all other F/OSS software that there will always be bugs to be squished, and functionality to improve upon, and so on. Don't get so butthurt because you think someone is picking on your baby OS.


My baby OS? LOL I don't use Linux on the desktop and on the server Debian would probably be the last distro I would use. But I don't see them trying to bullshit anyone into believing they are some super awesome distro that will detect all your hardware. I thought it was common knowledge that it is the distro of choice for GPL loons and user friendliness is not a priority. Maybe they should put a disclaimer on the website.

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Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I'm sorry I misinterpreted your feelings towards Debian; I assumed from your tone that you were being extra defensive of something you cared about. I often forget that you're the master of Devil's Advocate here. ;)

I do understand what you're getting at, and I agree that Debian has never claimed user friendliness. My issue is that it seems, in my own experience as well as the reviewer's, to have regressed from the last release. It's one thing to be a newbie-unfriendly OS; after all, two of my favorites, Slackware and Arch are kings there. It's quite another thing to regress and drop functionality, especially for a core service such as networking. I would understand completely if my wireless card's manufacturer had suddenly closed the source and the kernel team removed support, but nothing of the sort has happened, and in fact the company is opening up drivers for many more of its chipsets. (RaLink if you're curious)

Maybe I've just become lazy and spoiled by Slackware. (o.O)

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

I often forget that you're the master of Devil's Advocate here.

Or just the devil, depending on your POV. ;)

I would understand completely if my wireless card's manufacturer had suddenly closed the source and the kernel team removed support

I have seen that before so I guess I'm not surprised.

Maybe I've just become lazy and spoiled by Slackware. (o.O)

Slackware was actually the first distro I used and when I first tried RHEL I couldn't believe what a mess the install process was in comparison.

This is one of the better distros for home/small business server use and is Slackware based.
http://sms.it-ccs.com/index.html

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daschmidty Member since:
2007-03-01

I just felt the need to point this out somewhere, although I haven't used the new Debian, so I can't comment on it in particular. I notice a large number of the rebuttals people have made to complaints about hardware support (particularly wifi) focus on the fact that windows XP is equally bad. That may be true, but it isn't entirely reasonable to make an apples-to-apples comparison between an os released 3 weeks ago and one released 8 years ago. One would hope things have progressed since 2003.

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