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Debian and its clones Writing about Debian is not a simple thing. You know it's the giant that has spawned pretty much every other distro out there. It's almost like a Roman Empire, almost a taboo. Furthermore, it's not a desktop distro per se. It's more sort of a template you use to build your platform. It's also a SOHO server distro, therefore it more fits into the business category, comparable to CentOS and similar.
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RE[4]: Angry Rant Reviews present
by Vanders on Fri 18th Mar 2011 14:25 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Angry Rant Reviews present"
Vanders
Member since:
2005-07-06

I think the complaint was that everything needed to be manually configured starting with the damned firmware - what the hell kind of install is that?


Complaining about the lack of proprietary firmware on the install image, when installing a distribution which is widely known and very vocal about the fact that it does not ship proprietary firmware, is ridiculous.

It's about as interesting as "reviewing" Arch Linux and lambasting it for following a rolling release schedule, or noting that RHEL seems to be particularly well suited to servers.

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mrstep Member since:
2009-07-18

What, his card didn't already have a firmware? It needed another firmware because whoever is building this decided that you can't have an open driver on top of a non-open-source firmware. I get that Stallman and a couple of other people on the planet are purists/zealots to that degree, and if Debian is intended to be for the mullahs issuing anti-anything-proprietary fatwahs and their devout followers, I guess that's fine, just don't expect it to ever have a wider take-up. But don't expect glowing reviews when the installer starts picking out hardware that looks 'impure' to it either.

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Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

What, his card didn't already have a firmware?


Most cards require the firmware to be loaded at run time, yes.

just don't expect it to ever have a wider take-up.


I'm fairly sure that Debian are doing just fine and don't particularly need to worry about "wider take-up".

But don't expect glowing reviews when the installer starts picking out hardware that looks 'impure' to it either.


Except that's not what has happened.

Look, it's not like I haven't complained about this myself before. Doing a remote install on a server with chips like the Broadcom NetExtreme II in them can be interesting, for example. It's still churlish to complain about it when Debian are utterly up front about it and their reasons for doing it.

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