Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 19th Mar 2011 00:06 UTC
"A commercial ZFS solution is (still) coming to Mac OS X, thanks to former Apple filesystem and OS engineer Don Brady (who previously worked on the abandoned internal Apple project to port ZFS). Brady and his company, Ten's Complement, just launched a limited private beta in hopes to have the software polished and ready for a summer launch this year. Ars spoke with Brady, who has a long history engineering filesystems for Mac OS and Mac OS X, to find out a little about his previous work with ZFS at Apple, and what Mac users can expect to gain from Ten's Complement's port of ZFS."
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RE: Will definitely buy...
by someone on Sat 19th Mar 2011 14:07
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OS X server is part of Mac OS X Lion (there won't be a server version)
http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/ (At the end of the page)
RE[2]: Will definitely buy...
by chekr on Sun 20th Mar 2011 00:41
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OS X server is part of Mac OS X Lion (there won't be a server version)
http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/ (At the end of the page)
http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/ (At the end of the page)
I am aware of that but its is still a separate install option. Apple could change the license to state that when using the server option it is permissible to run OS X in a VM on non Apple HW.
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by Stratoukos on Sun 20th Mar 2011 10:37
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RE: Will definitely buy...
by JAlexoid on Sat 19th Mar 2011 14:07
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RE[2]: Will definitely buy...
by someone on Sat 19th Mar 2011 14:14
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RE[2]: Will definitely buy...
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sat 19th Mar 2011 14:36
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"Hopefully Apple will ease up and allow some sort of licensing arrangement for OS X Server to run on non Apple servers (seeing as they now have none).
Why would they need to? Since OS X Server is basically all of the F/OSS software with a pretty front end... "
Sadly, this is not *completely* true. OSX doesn't update their F/OSS very often. Its really outdated ( full of security holes and other nastys), and there really is a lot of F/OSS software not available outside of darwin ports or fink ( which means all of the pretty front end stuff doesn't work with it). It might be a good replacement for an internal small business server that doesn't need exchange, sharepoint, active directory, or anything else MS specific. As long as it only needs the F/OSS that Macs come with.
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by John Blink on Sat 19th Mar 2011 23:00
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"Hopefully Apple will ease up and allow some sort of licensing arrangement for OS X Server to run on non Apple servers (seeing as they now have none).
Why would they need to? Since OS X Server is basically all of the F/OSS software with a pretty front end... "
Well my only thoughts about this is,
- How would I apply MCX settings to Mac clients?
- How would I set up NetInstall for Mac clients?
- How would I save bandwidth for all Mac clients for software updates.
It might be F/OSS setting up, ftp, email, web server, etc. But Apple did do some specific things for their software platform.
To the person, you quoted. It would be great if they allowed it and specifically virtualised OSX server. Currently you are allowed to Virtualise OSX server, but as long as the VM is running on Apple hardware. Well that server hardware is going away. After all Apple is soft..hardwa..gadgets.. company.
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by chekr on Sun 20th Mar 2011 00:44
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RE: Will definitely buy...
by someone on Sat 19th Mar 2011 14:12
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In any case, I am not convinced that ZFS would be the perfect fit for a client OS that is increasingly focused on mobility. However, it would be nice if HFS+ could be further revamped with the addition of COW, checksums, snapshot, encryption (It appears the latter two are coming to Lion. Although Versions may not be implemented at the file system level) and other features useful to a mobile user, while avoiding the overhead of ZFS.
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by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sat 19th Mar 2011 14:40
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by WereCatf on Sat 19th Mar 2011 14:57
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by chekr on Sun 20th Mar 2011 00:46
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This is something I will definitely buy for my Mac.
He is right not to target this at enterprise customers as Apple is clearly leaning away from that market right now.
Hopefully Apple will ease up and allow some sort of licensing arrangement for OS X Server to run on non Apple servers (seeing as they now have none).