Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st Mar 2011 22:52 UTC, submitted by ephracis
Legal Since competing on merit is looked down upon in the computer and software world, companies in this business usually go for the blindfolded chick with the scale and sword. Up until recently, Microsoft didn't go for the whole patent litigation thing, but now that they've tasted some, they want more. They just sued Barnes & Noble, Foxconn, and Inventec for patent infringement because they use Android.
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by WorknMan on Mon 21st Mar 2011 23:55 UTC
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We already have a page 2 item about this, but I think this is important enough to be on the front page.


Can't really agree with this sentiment. I am 99.9% sure that one of two things are going to happen as a result of this lawsuit (as are usually the results of such lawsuits):

1. The case will be thrown out
2. It will be settled out of court, and probably 'for an undisclosed sum'.

So how does this DIRECTLY affect you and me? Answer: it doesn't. In fact, I can't remember the last time I was impacted by a patent lawsuit in a way that I actually noticed it. Like, 'feature x was removed from this app because of a patent violation ...' If such a thing happens though, THAT is worthy of coverage. But if not, what's the point?

The only purpose this article (and others like it) serves is to point out that software patents are dumb. But since this is common knowledge to anybody who's reading this site, it is certainly not worthy of being posted twice.

Patent lawsuits are like Microsoft security bulletins; you can bet there's going to be a new one every week. Somebody is always going to be suing somebody else, so (IMHO) there should be a website set up just to cover these, for those that care about them, while tech sites cover news that actually matters.

Edited 2011-03-21 23:56 UTC

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RE: Front page
by JAlexoid on Tue 22nd Mar 2011 00:15 in reply to "Front page"
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So how does this DIRECTLY affect you and me? Answer: it doesn't.


Really? You think it does not? How are they going to write off the losses due to the lawsuit? I can't imagine that the investors will be OK in absorbing those costs without increasing margins on some things.

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RE[2]: Front page
by tomcat on Tue 22nd Mar 2011 00:18 in reply to "RE: Front page"
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"So how does this DIRECTLY affect you and me? Answer: it doesn't.
Really? You think it does not? How are they going to write off the losses due to the lawsuit? I can't imagine that the investors will be OK in absorbing those costs without increasing margins on some things. "

To some degree, you're right on that point. IF it's a publicly traded company -- and the ones being sued are -- then they would typically account for these sorts of losses on the balance sheet.

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RE[2]: Front page
by WorknMan on Tue 22nd Mar 2011 00:36 in reply to "RE: Front page"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Really? You think it does not? How are they going to write off the losses due to the lawsuit? I can't imagine that the investors will be OK in absorbing those costs without increasing margins on some things.


Well, it's also possible they would raise prices to compensate for a fire in some Chinese factory that destroyed a whole batch of their product, or a thousand other different kind of scenarios that affect their bottom line. Do you really care to know every time something like that happens?

Edited 2011-03-22 00:36 UTC

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RE: Front page
by allanregistos on Tue 22nd Mar 2011 02:52 in reply to "Front page"
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"We already have a page 2 item about this, but I think this is important enough to be on the front page.


1. The case will be thrown out
2. It will be settled out of court, and probably 'for an undisclosed sum'.

So how does this DIRECTLY affect you and me? Answer: it doesn't. In fact, I can't remember the last time I was impacted by a patent lawsuit in a way that I actually noticed it.
"

Naive. You will be affected directly through *pricing*, note *pricing*.
For example, an ereader from them worth $100 SRP will be modified to accomodate the tax/royalty imposed by Microsoft to them. If MS will require B&N $5 for every device, then B&N will sell you the ereader for $105 or more instead of just $100. It is a modern and legal way of getting money from device manufacturers under the pretext of providing better services to investors and consumers, with only *saliva* (also known as lawyers) as their investment. This is a big insult to Android developers and Google.

This is exactly Microsoft telling you that they own the design of your Android phone, telling you that if you tap a tab in your phone just to view a web content, that wonderful experience was due to Microsoft's innovative technology, and you can't freely implement that without paying Microsoft since they *patented* it first regardless if that thing/experience is obvious. The worst thing is that MS here is directly extorting the consumers literally, since B&N would just pass the imposed royalty aka protection racket money to the consumers.

This will stifle innovation and increase the prices of Android gadgets.

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RE[2]: Front page
by tomcat on Tue 22nd Mar 2011 04:10 in reply to "RE: Front page"
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This will stifle innovation and increase the prices of Android gadgets.


It can also be argued that Android gadgets are priced below what the they should, if the claim that Google should have been compelled to license the infringing technology is true; or put another way, if Google infringed, the cost of the infringement came out of Microsoft's hide...

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RE[2]: Front page
by WorknMan on Tue 22nd Mar 2011 06:18 in reply to "RE: Front page"
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Naive. You will be affected directly through *pricing*, note *pricing*.
For example, an ereader from them worth $100 SRP will be modified to accomodate the tax/royalty imposed by Microsoft to them. If MS will require B&N $5 for every device, then B&N will sell you the ereader for $105 or more instead of just $100.


A whole $5, huh? Wow, I'm gonna lose sleep over that one ;)

Note: I'm not saying it's not an important topic, but it's more of a political issue than a technical one. And too many people love to turn technology sites into political soap boxes, IMHO.

Edited 2011-03-22 06:19 UTC

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