Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd Mar 2011 22:48 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless All hail the omnipresent people familiar with the matter.This time, these patrons of the internet have told InformationWeek that Motorola is not satisfied with Google's Android, and that the company is working on its own mobile operating system.
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Committing suicide?
by ngnr on Thu 24th Mar 2011 01:30 UTC
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IMHO Before Android Motorola was nearly dead in the Smartphone business.

Now that they are back on track it would be a very bad move to develop its own OS.

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RE: Committing suicide?
by Praxis on Thu 24th Mar 2011 04:28 in reply to "Committing suicide?"
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There is just too much competition in the phone OS market these days for a single manufacturer OS to get any traction at this point.Can you be more enterprise friendly then RIM, more user friendly than iOS, more sleek than WebOS, cheaper than Symbian or Bada, or more geek friendly than Meego. If Moto can't carve out of very clear niche for themselves quickly, they shouldn't even bother.

If they want to differentiate from over Android vendors, promise fast updates and give people control over their phone, if any phone vendor promised that they would have my dollars much faster than any skin they could ever dream up. And if they really want their skin to work well, then just go to the app store and buy or shamelessly copy the most popular home screen apps or launchers replacements.

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RE[2]: Committing suicide?
by RichterKuato on Thu 24th Mar 2011 07:48 in reply to "RE: Committing suicide?"
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People say that all the time but if you have a killer app(s) it doesn't matter.

As long as they don't rely on third-party support and provide all the functionality needed for the user to get a good experience out of it they'll be fine.

If they built a good product people will buy it. They only question is do they want to. (or is their business model fundamentally opposed to it.)

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RE: Committing suicide?
by elsewhere on Thu 24th Mar 2011 04:47 in reply to "Committing suicide?"
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IMHO Before Android Motorola was nearly dead in the Smartphone business.

Now that they are back on track it would be a very bad move to develop its own OS.

It would be, but it would also be in keeping with their track record of turning success into failure.

If fragmentation is the issue, I'd postulate that OEMs like Motorola are the reason fragmentation is the issue.

If overly broad ambiguous software patent lawsuits are a liability for Android, they will be a liability for whatever Motorola mocks up. It's worth noting that Motorola has a pretty heft patent portfolio of their own which would actually give them an advantage over the other Android OEMs.

To me, developing a separate OS at this point doesn't make sense. Palm delivered a top notch OS complete that was well hyped and eagerly anticipated and utterly failed to impact their market. Microsoft, despite their global brand recognition and engineering resources, is struggling with WP7 despite the positive reviews and differentiated interface.

Motorola has pulled themselves out of the gutter with Android, but they are still very much an old-school mobile manufacturer that will not dare risk their relationships with the carriers for the sake of their consumers. That will hinder any aspirations they have to outdo the Android experience.

As much as I dislike the walled garden approach of Apple, I think the most remarkable thing they accomplished with the iPhone was retaining control of the user experience and keeping it free from carrier interference. When a new iOS version is released, it is available (generally) to all iPhones everywhere. There's something to be said for that model, because not only does it simplify things for users and developers, but it also reduces buyers remorse, since you (generally) don't need to worry about being denied improvements and upgrades in favor of newer models. None of the other manufacturers have figured this out yet, though I'm keeping my eye on HP.

As much as I like Android, I won't be paying for any handset that doesn't have the Nexus name attached to it. My N1 has fed me a steady stream of updates over the last year, much as my previous iPhones did during their time. My friends and family with Android phones can't say the same thing, and I frankly enjoy taunting them because of that.

Truth be told, the update to gingerbread breathed new life into my N1. The performance improvement, while not ground-breaking, was significant enough to temporarily curb my wanderlust to look at something like the Nexus S. This makes it the longest I've used a mobile as my primary handset in a long time. And this I think is the key. The OEMs generally stop caring about their products six months after they're released, because they're focused on the next models to be released. When you're committed to a two- or three-year contract with your provider, that's just a pisser.

I don't think Motorola gets this. They just want to move handsets. Android moves handsets for them, I suspect they're kidding themselves if they think they've sufficiently strengthened their brand that they can leverage their own OS. They'll need to attract developers, marketing momentum and hype, as well as carrier support. I don't think they have the cajones to pull it off.

But then, I never believed Nokia would move to WP7, so what do I know... ;)

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RE[2]: Committing suicide?
by avgalen on Thu 24th Mar 2011 07:32 in reply to "RE: Committing suicide?"
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You said it very well yourself. If you wouldn't have received the free update (that costs the manufacturer money to produce/deploy) you would have punished them by.....buying a new phone (the earns the manufacturer money)

THAT is why they stop supporting hardware quickly.
Of course, if 1 company breaks this pattern and continues to bring updates it will have a competitive advantage, gains a positive reputation and has a Unique Selling Point. Eventually that would force other manufacturers to do the same or lower their price but for several reasons we haven't seen this happen yet

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RE[2]: Committing suicide?
by r_a_trip on Thu 24th Mar 2011 10:48 in reply to "RE: Committing suicide?"
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But then, I never believed Nokia would move to WP7, so what do I know....

The difference here is that Nokia was "bought" by MS to become their poster WP7 handset manufacturer. Nothing is more cushy (short term) than getting revenue from the MS Warchests.

Moto needs to dip into their own wallet to create something new and compelling. Far, far riskier.

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RE: Committing suicide?
by vivainio on Thu 24th Mar 2011 07:15 in reply to "Committing suicide?"
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IMHO Before Android Motorola was nearly dead in the Smartphone business.

Now that they are back on track it would be a very bad move to develop its own OS.

Exactly the opposite - when you are rolling smoothly, it's time to develop new things (as you can afford it) and prepare for the future.

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