Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Mar 2011 17:24 UTC
Mac OS X Ten years ago, to the day. March 24, 2001, the first official released version of Mac OS X went on sale, for USD 129. It was a massive step up and a massive step down from MacOS 9 at the same time - technically way more advanced, but clearly still in its infancy and pretty much unusable. Kernel panics, crashes, incredibly slow, and lacking many key features. It was so bad, in fact, that Mac OS X 10.1 was released as a free upgrade. Of course, we geeks know that Mac OS X is technically a lot older, but alas, let's just celebrate these 10 years. Maybe Lion will finally bring a usable non-crashing Finder!
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RE[4]: About the Finder
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 24th Mar 2011 23:25 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: About the Finder"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

What exactly happens?


Network shares are a pain in the Finder. Random "disconnects" (it's still supposedly there but the Finder can't read anything), resuming from sleep causes the Finder to beachball for 5 minutes when opening mounted shares, and every now and then (few times a month, sometimes every week) it'll just give up and crash. Restarting is impossible, you'll get a numerical error - only a full reboot will fix it.

I've had consistent issues like this crossing 4 releases, and about... Seven, 8 Macs or so. Do a Google search - you'll see I'm not the only one.

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RE[5]: About the Finder
by helf on Fri 25th Mar 2011 00:22 in reply to "RE[4]: About the Finder"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

Huh. Thats odd. I'm glad I haven't had this issues yet. *crosses fingers*

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RE[5]: About the Finder
by t3RRa on Fri 25th Mar 2011 01:34 in reply to "RE[4]: About the Finder"
t3RRa Member since:
2005-11-22

That's what is called "user epic failures"!

Even the Finder of Tiger on my iMac Snow (which is G3 600Mhz) does not crash. I do not even need to mention my MBP 13". Oh and I never had a Finder crash on my iMac G3 333Mhz with Panther running either! It was really slow though the Finder had never crashed.

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RE[6]: About the Finder
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 25th Mar 2011 07:20 in reply to "RE[5]: About the Finder"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Why is that a user failure? Or are you just trolling?

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RE[6]: About the Finder
by mrstep on Fri 25th Mar 2011 15:08 in reply to "RE[5]: About the Finder"
mrstep Member since:
2009-07-18

I wouldn't call it any sort of epic fail - it's more stable than it used to be. But the fact that you haven't had it crash for you, while being absolutely wonderful, doesn't mean that Thom, I, or others haven't had issues. Like I say, I think the amount/severity of failure is overstated, at least for what I've run into, but it's not some perfectly stable app either. And depending on how Thom is using it, he may see issues more often than I do.

There are tens of millions of users - it's just possible someone has issues and that that someone happens not to be (lucky!) you. ;)

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RE[5]: About the Finder
by _txf_ on Fri 25th Mar 2011 09:45 in reply to "RE[4]: About the Finder"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Network shares are a pain in the Finder.


Despite the fact that finder has never crashed on me, the above statement is absolutely true. For a unix based operating system the implementation of networking in the ui sucks a metric sh*t ton.

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RE[5]: About the Finder
by sdfg on Fri 25th Mar 2011 18:21 in reply to "RE[4]: About the Finder"
sdfg Member since:
2011-03-25

Agree. It happens. One question to Thom though. What are the file system and the OS running the shared folder? E.g. if you set up an SMB file share from a Linux server and then connect to it from a Mac, it is very likely to be a nightmare. OTOH, SMB works more or less smoothly between Windows and Linux or between Windows and Mac. Sometimes it is unclear whom to blame - the client or the server, especially if both are "aliens" in terms of the network protocol.

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RE[6]: About the Finder
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 26th Mar 2011 02:02 in reply to "RE[5]: About the Finder"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

All Windows 7 machines with NTFS. Nothing exotic, stock installs.

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