Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 24th Mar 2011 22:30 UTC
Legal Yesterday, we linked to a story about the most recent allegations Sony made against George 'GeoHot' Hotz in their ongoing court case. Supposedly, Hotz has sabotaged the hardware he had to hand over, and he had fled the country to further stifle the court case, among other things. Hotz' lawyer, as well as Hotz himself, have responded to these allegations. The gist? They're all nonsense.
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RE: Comment by thebluesgnr
by toast88 on Fri 25th Mar 2011 10:30 UTC in reply to "Comment by thebluesgnr"
toast88
Member since:
2009-09-23

We have determined that the controller cards
which are screwed onto the hard drives were removed prior to them being given to us. Therefore we are unable
to operate the hard drives in their current state.


vs.

The 'components' SCEA is talking about are hard drives' controller cards. The neutral [third party examining the drives] subsequently had to explain to SCEA the form and function of hard drive controller cards," Kellar explained to Ars, "It is a stock part that can be purchased at any electronics hardware store. Those controller cards have since been provided to the neutral so the point is moot."


Anyone realizing that we are talking about totally distinct pieces of electronics? The complaint about the sabotaged hard drives is _clearly_ talking about the controller circuits which are mounted onto the hard drives. Those are totally different to any external controller cards which plug into the PCI/PCI Express slots of a PC and _cannot_ be purchased at any electronics hardware store.

And I, while I support Geohot in his arguments against Sony regarding the overall process, have to admit that unless the neutral investigators are not making false statements here and the controller circuit boards have been removed from the hard drives, then Geohot has clearly sabotaged the hardware as it not possible to read out the hard drives in such a state unless you are working at a forensic data company like OnTrack and obviously no hard drives are sold without these controller circuit boards.

One has to be very careful to listen to the arguments of both parties and scrutinize the facts as both parties are obviously fighting with unfair weapons.

Adrian

Edited 2011-03-25 10:30 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by thebluesgnr
by looncraz on Sat 26th Mar 2011 06:50 in reply to "RE: Comment by thebluesgnr"
looncraz Member since:
2005-07-24

I believe the device in question is not the hard drive boards, but external encryption devices.

Something akin to the following:

http://www.cooldrives.com/encryption-pci-adapter-x-wall-chip.html

(linked merely because it was the first result - I'm lazy... ).

From all the comments, this appears to be the case.

The e-mail from the neutral seems to indicate that they are able to access the data, but it is encrypted and they need a compatible controller card to decrypt the data.

Which is exactly what I would do if they wanted my hard drives ;-) ( though, they would have a much harder time imaging my hard drive collection... I have 8 or more, I dunno, and a drawer FULL of others.... maybe 30-40 drives... all with data... ).

I rotate :-)

--The loon

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RE[3]: Comment by thebluesgnr
by jtfolden on Sat 26th Mar 2011 09:00 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by thebluesgnr"
jtfolden Member since:
2005-08-12

I believe the device in question is not the hard drive boards, but external encryption devices.


No. If you read the actual email exchange here you will see they are indeed referring to the boards on the drives themselves:
http://www.groklaw.net/pdf2/SonyvHotz-104-19.pdf

A quote: "Your client has not provided a “hard drive” but rather parts of the hard drive. A “hard drive” must contain all the parts that make it a working device which include the enclosure, platters, heads and attached controller card. This controller card is installed at the factory and not normally removed or handled by an end user."

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