Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 30th Mar 2011 21:27 UTC
Windows Ever since Microsoft adopted its new 'silent treatment' development process, barely any news about the next version of Windows leaves Redmond. Now though, we have WinRumors stating that for Windows 8, Microsoft is finally going to do something visibly useful for desktop users with Shadow Copy, a feature first introduced in Windows XP.
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RE[2]: Except that...
by stabbyjones on Wed 30th Mar 2011 23:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Except that..."
stabbyjones
Member since:
2008-04-15

I'm so glad someone else thought that. Backing up data to the same drive is just idiocy to start with. Let alone the issues of having your backup in the same location, (the laptop itself).

"I need to back up part of my hard drive to another part of my hard drive. Just in case my hard drive fails. It's also fine if someone steals my laptop because i back everything up."

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RE[3]: Except that...
by _txf_ on Wed 30th Mar 2011 23:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Except that..."
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Backing up data to the same drive is just idiocy to start with.


I'd say it is more like 4/5 Idiocy. If the drive gets damaged (or is stolen) then you are out of luck. However, backups to other parts of the same drive do provide redundancy against file corruption or sector damage.

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RE[3]: Except that...
by joshv on Thu 31st Mar 2011 00:50 in reply to "RE[2]: Except that..."
joshv Member since:
2006-03-18

Accidentally delete a folder and not notice it. Accidentally paste garbage into critical document and save it without noticing. Wait several weeks until your backup program creates a new baseline. The data is gone, no matter where it was stored.

Not with shadow copies though.

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RE[4]: Except that...
by WorknMan on Thu 31st Mar 2011 03:00 in reply to "RE[3]: Except that..."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

Well, I'm just saying that if I'm going to back something up, I'm not going to put it on the same physical drive it was originally stored on. I mean, I realize it's better than nothing, but still not the ideal ;)

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RE[3]: Except that...
by phoenix on Thu 31st Mar 2011 04:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Except that..."
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

I'm so glad someone else thought that. Backing up data to the same drive is just idiocy to start with. Let alone the issues of having your backup in the same location, (the laptop itself).


There's more than one level of backups. For example, keeping filesystem snapshots or multiple versions of a file helps with accidental deletions or local file corruption. Especially if they (snaps) happen often enough. These can be on the same disk, or on a separate disk.

Then there's recovery (what most people consider "backups") that allow you restore files if your entire harddrive dies.

Obviously, you don't want the latter stored on the same drive. But there's nothing wrong with the former being on the same drive.

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RE[3]: Except that...
by j.dalrymple on Thu 31st Mar 2011 05:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Except that..."
j.dalrymple Member since:
2011-03-29

Backing up data to the same drive is just idiocy to start with.


Depends what you want from your backup. If you just want to be able to restore old versions of your files then it's not so stupid. If you're backing up in case of data loss then it is a bit.

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