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RE[5]: Any free software to find rootkits and keyloggers?
by Morgan on Thu 31st Mar 2011 13:18
in reply to "RE[4]: Any free software to find rootkits and keyloggers?"
"Please show me where in my post I said that *nixes are "magically immune" to malware? Oh that's right, I didn't.
I never quoted you at all. "
Bullshit. Who were you addressing then, when you said "Spreading the same old crap that Unix\Linux is magically immune to these things doesn't help anybody, especially people who take your words to heart and then get burned."
I'm waiting.
you said:
"It's highly doubtful that any GNU/Linux or BSD distribution contains something like that, and it's very difficult (but not impossible) to infect such OSes with rootkits. It would depend on an absolutely moronic user
"It's highly doubtful that any GNU/Linux or BSD distribution contains something like that, and it's very difficult (but not impossible) to infect such OSes with rootkits. It would depend on an absolutely moronic user
Which was what I was addressing, with rootkits on Linux, it's not "the moronic user" that is the issue, it's other software running on the box. Please read a comment before getting your feathers ruffled. "
And my point was that it is much more difficult for such compromised software to find its way onto a *nix box. It generally happens to clueless users, or in rare cases when the blackhat has physical access to the machine. I stand by my original reply to the GP's question about Linux distros being compromised at the release stage.
RE[6]: Any free software to find rootkits and keyloggers?
by BluenoseJake on Thu 31st Mar 2011 13:41
in reply to "RE[5]: Any free software to find rootkits and keyloggers?"
Please show me where in my post I said that *nixes are "magically immune" to malware? Oh that's right, I didn't.
I never quoted you at all.
Bullshit. Who were you addressing then, when you said "Spreading the same old crap that Unix\Linux is magically immune to these things doesn't help anybody, especially people who take your words to heart and then get burned."
I'm waiting.
I never quoted you at all.
Bullshit. Who were you addressing then, when you said "Spreading the same old crap that Unix\Linux is magically immune to these things doesn't help anybody, especially people who take your words to heart and then get burned."
I'm waiting.
you said:
It's highly doubtful that any GNU/Linux or BSD distribution contains something like that, and it's very difficult (but not impossible) to infect such OSes with rootkits. It would depend on an absolutely moronic user
That's not a quote. I made a reference to something you said. I did not quote you, look up quote in the dictionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quote
That being said, your post left me with the impression, after reading it, that you believe Linux and OS X is much more secure.
It's hard to say, especially after the breaches at Oracle and mySQL lately, because Linux is very popular on the server, and it's breach rate is as high as Windows, because you don't gain access to a server through users installing shit, or clicking a malicious link, you exploit a hole in apache, or ldap, or OpenSSH, etc.
Linux and OS X are not a security panacea, especially OS X, which is widely known to be pretty crappy, from a security standpoint, with OS X, the versions of most of it's GPL software are old and out of date, and could contain many security holes.
Oh, and I'm not waiting. Learn what quote means.
Edited 2011-03-31 13:47 UTC




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I never quoted you at all.
you said:
Which was what I was addressing, with rootkits on Linux, it's not "the moronic user" that is the issue, it's other software running on the box. Please read a comment before getting your feathers ruffled.