Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st Mar 2011 22:23 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu has released the first beta for Ubuntu 11.04. This si the first release where Unity is the default desktop environment. All the official Ubuntu derivatives have also bee beta'd.
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RE: Does it work?
by joekiser on Fri 1st Apr 2011 00:04 UTC in reply to "Does it work?"
joekiser
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2005-06-30

I don't know that this is Ubuntu's fault. At least for Intel, a lot of the graphics driver is now in the kernel, and it seems that every other update is broken. Since different distros go "gold" with different combinations of XOrg/Mesa/xf86-video-intel/kernel snapshots, it may seem as though one distro is more mature than another. In reality, they just ship whatever was most recent at the time, and it happens to have been bad timing. Use a rolling-release distro that always pulls in the latest software, and watch how one update can totally mess up the graphics stack, and next week's update runs as good as Windows.

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RE[2]: Does it work?
by Alfman on Fri 1st Apr 2011 02:34 in reply to "RE: Does it work?"
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2011-01-28

"I don't know that this is Ubuntu's fault...it may seem as though one distro is more mature than another. In reality, they just ship whatever was most recent at the time, and it happens to have been bad timing."

I agree, maybe the problems stem from upstream, however I bricked two Ubuntu systems by hitting the "upgrade" button, and now I'm afraid to do it any more.


I've installed Debian many times, and I think Ubuntu has done a great job making the whole process more user friendly. It's just that the last few releases have been of worse stability/quality than predecessors - to the point where I'd recommend avoiding the upgrade.

They should test compatibility more thoroughly before official releases and if necessary roll back pieces which are broken. It's not like Fedora, who's users expect the bleeding edge.

Edit: This is a beta...so I guess instead of complaining, I should be installing it to report problems *before* the official release.

Edited 2011-04-01 02:41 UTC

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RE[3]: Does it work?
by Gone fishing on Fri 1st Apr 2011 05:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Does it work?"
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2006-02-22

I'd recommend avoiding the upgrade.


Absolutely - my experience with upgrading is very poor and now I have a separate /home partition and simply do a fresh install.

Doing a fresh install, however, my experience with the last releases of Ubuntu have been good - but this one with so many changes we'll see, I think I'm reasonably optimistic.

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RE[3]: Does it work?
by marblesbot on Fri 1st Apr 2011 07:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Does it work?"
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2009-12-25

Yes, upgrading has been a problem since 2004!

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RE[2]: Does it work?
by TrendKill on Fri 1st Apr 2011 12:34 in reply to "RE: Does it work?"
TrendKill Member since:
2006-01-21

... and next week's update runs as good as Windows.


You need to higher your expectations. ;)

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RE[2]: Does it work?
by nt_jerkface on Fri 1st Apr 2011 16:22 in reply to "RE: Does it work?"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

How is it not Ubuntu's fault? They have plenty of employees that should be testing for regressions.

A while back they broke Dell netbooks that came pre-installed with Ubuntu. How is that excusable?

Something is very wrong at Canonical. They have a massive amount of employees and yet I see no reason to believe they are any better for desktop users than some of the smaller 1-3 man distros.

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RE[3]: Does it work?
by joekiser on Fri 1st Apr 2011 18:45 in reply to "RE[2]: Does it work?"
joekiser Member since:
2005-06-30

In that case, perhaps Ubuntu/Dell should have a team dedicated to making sure that their product continues to work. Especially considering that Dell was selling their Ubuntu laptops for considerably more than similarly spec'd Windows machines...one would think that extra $$$ was going to long term support.

That reminds me of another failure of OSS and hardware vendors...a few years ago when it looked like OpenSolaris was going to take off, Toshiba was selling OpenSolaris-branded laptops. Except the chosen wireless adapter wasn't supported at the time, and ACPI S3 didn't work...and that was straight from the factory!

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