Linked by David Adams on Thu 31st Mar 2011 16:41 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption If you download and use what appears to be a version of the commercial "Walk and Text" Android app from a file sharing site, you're in for a surprise. When you run it, it shows you that it's being "cracked" but it's really gathering information from your device, in preparation for an e-smackdown. It sends a bunch of personal information (name, phone number, IMEI) off to a server, and, just for lulz, text messages everyone on your contact list:
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RE[3]: Nice !
by MamiyaOtaru on Fri 1st Apr 2011 15:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Nice !"
MamiyaOtaru
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2005-11-11

I assumed that it would be able to do a good job recording from that while permitting me to watch the stream in full-screen. I was wrong! The output from the recording was useless. Absolutely garbage!

Thank G-O-D I was smart and "pirated" it.

Maybe the output from the full version was crap because it was a pirated version? ;)

Srsly though the argument rings false. If your pirated version had functioned fine, there's no way you would have turned around and paid for it. You would have already had it, working. People say they'll test it and then pay the devs, but once they have the product functioning the
motivation drops way down.

Sure, in your anecdotal and totally verifiable account you ended up paying for Cyberlink's stuff. That's not the way it usually plays out though.

Not to mention the hundreds of movies I own which I would have NEVER seen without being able to download them.

If they are worth your hundreds of hours, they are worth remunerating the people who made them possible. Personally, I watch next to no movies and don't care about sending Hollywood money. But if you are watching hundreds of the things, it's a bit of a stretch to say you are owed them for free. Unless you are claiming that after having downloaded them and tested them to see if they match up to your high cineastic standards, you turn around and pay for them? Like I'd believe that?

I wrote them and told them two improvements to make:
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2. Drop the price to $20 or less.

just lol


I'm as against draconian DRM and stupid laws as anyone, but the justifications for piracy are increasingly unpalatable for me. Your first bit, about finding a program that will actually work, is the most sympathetic to me. Programs that insist on costing money need a fully functional demo that accurately reflects the final product and it sucks when they don't. But it's increasingly hard for me to follow the thread from that to "I'll get it for free then pay for it afterwards I swear"

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RE[4]: Nice !
by Morgan on Fri 1st Apr 2011 16:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Nice !"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Srsly though the argument rings false. If your pirated version had functioned fine, there's no way you would have turned around and paid for it. You would have already had it, working. People say they'll test it and then pay the devs, but once they have the product functioning the
motivation drops way down.


I don't know, I tend to believe him, if only because I made a similar decision with one of the most "pirated" pieces of software out there: Windows 7. Though, I didn't download a cracked copy; I was running the final RC from Microsoft, and I had installed it around November 2009. Technically I had until March 2010 to continue using it in a fully functional state for free, and of course I could download it illegally if I wanted to, but I went ahead and bought it in January. Why? I was that impressed with it; in fact I bought the Ultimate edition as that is equivalent to the RC in features.

Granted, I got it at a steep discount from my part time job, and I willingly admit that was influential in my decision. But for the first time since DOS 6.22/WfW 3.11 I was actually blown away by how good a Microsoft OS can be. It now resides next to Slackware on my main PC, and since it's the retail version it will soon move to the Dell D620 I'm about to buy to replace the desktop (again, at a discount from work).

The way I see it, these days there is no reason to even "pirate" software in the first place. (And I still loathe the use of the misnomer "pirate" but for ease of communication I will use it.) These days there is a free, and usually open source, alternative to most of the best mainstream software out there, especially operating systems. The vast majority of what we use our computers for can be accomplished with free software, and if one absolutely has to have functionality not available with free alternatives, I'd say it's time to buy what you need.

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RE[4]: Nice !
by umccullough on Fri 1st Apr 2011 17:06 in reply to "RE[3]: Nice !"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

But it's increasingly hard for me to follow the thread from that to "I'll get it for free then pay for it afterwards I swear"


So, you've never donated to a FOSS project after finding their software useful?

And, the "pay what you want" concept always fails right?

Just because there are a large number of "freeloaders" out there, doesn't mean that everyone is. I think it says more about your own personality if you believe that nobody would ever pay for something after getting it for free.

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