Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Apr 2011 23:07 UTC
Legal "The hacker hordes of Anonymous have transferred their fickle attention to Sony. They are currently attacking the company's online Playstation store in retribution for Sony's lawsuit against PS3 hacker George Hotz. A denial of service attack has temporarily taken down playstation.com."
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Interesting
by Elv13 on Tue 5th Apr 2011 02:24 UTC
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2006-06-12

They are still alive even if the anon-hype is over and lawsuit in progress. I was quite sure the movement would lose much of its strength after a few week. But apparently they still have the fire power to take down target used to multi million simultaneous visitors.

I dont think it come from peoples having forgotten that ion cannon thing open for months, they must have one (or both) of these things: an ever increasing in power botnet or real supporters.

Are they the "good peoples", definitely not. But at the same time, like it or not, they do defend peoples interest against abusive corporate power and corporate driven government action, slowing the *slow* "advance" coming from the lobbying front. So, in the end, are those kids "outlaw hero" like modern robin hood, just dumb kids playing batman or simple criminals with no better idea and/or an appetite for visibility?

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RE: Interesting
by WereCatf on Tue 5th Apr 2011 03:35 in reply to "Interesting"
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2006-02-15

But apparently they still have the fire power to take down target used to multi million simultaneous visitors.[/quote]

It actually doesn't require all that much. It's the amount of small packets from many different IP addresses that cause congestion and is actually surprisingly easy to do. A few hundred PCs is enough, and there's apparently atleast 550 people on Anon IRC channel.

[q]But at the same time, like it or not, they do defend peoples interest against abusive corporate power


By blocking legitimate users from accessing services they're paying for? Nope, that logic doesn't fly.

those ... dumb kids ... with no better idea and/or an appetite for visibility?


Indeed.

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RE[2]: Interesting
by Elv13 on Tue 5th Apr 2011 05:04 in reply to "RE: Interesting"
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2006-06-12

Well, it make the news and make issue more visible outside of the deep geek-o-sphere, for what it worth.

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RE[2]: Interesting
by Alfman on Tue 5th Apr 2011 05:36 in reply to "RE: Interesting"
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2011-01-28

Elv13,
"But at the same time, like it or not, they do defend peoples interest against abusive corporate power"

WereCatf,
"By blocking legitimate users from accessing services they're paying for? Nope, that logic doesn't fly."



Well, in a Martin Luther King type of way, it actually does make some sense.

(Please don't misinterpret this comment as suggesting that taking arms against Sony has the same merit as fighting racism.)

Hypothetically, MLK probably would condone DOS attacks too if they helped his cause.

It's true a DOS blocks "legitimate users", just like MLK's human roadblocks, standins, sitins, etc interfere with public activities. For him, it was a way to send a message, peacefully. He could not fight the oppressors directly, he was powerless that way. He fought by forcing others to get involved.

Edited 2011-04-05 05:40 UTC

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RE: Interesting
by westlake on Tue 5th Apr 2011 04:21 in reply to "Interesting"
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2010-01-07

So, in the end, are those kids "outlaw hero" like modern robin hood, just dumb kids playing batman or simple criminals with no better idea and/or an appetite for visibility?


Walmart positions the PS3 Slim at the center of a golden triangle of console video games, Internet enabled HDTVS, and rack upon rack of DVD and Blu-Ray videos.

Walmart knows what sells -
and it isn't Homebrew and it isn't the OtherOS.

Blu-Ray at Walmart is very much alive. But the PS3 Fat is close on to three years dead.

Each new Arkham City, Black Ops game, Blu-Ray rental or high-definition Netflix stream is a vote for the firmware upgrade.

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RE[2]: Interesting
by WereCatf on Tue 5th Apr 2011 04:32 in reply to "RE: Interesting"
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2006-02-15

Each new Arkham City, Black Ops game, Blu-Ray rental or high-definition Netflix stream is a vote for the firmware upgrade.


You can't claim such. You can't just somehow expect everyone to know what CFW is or that they even have the possibility of using homebrew. Not to mention the whole hassle of backing up your games and modifying eboot.bin to get it working on lower firmware and whatnot.

If anything, it's a choice between homebrew and online gaming, and for most people online gaming wins.

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RE[2]: Interesting
by Laurence on Tue 5th Apr 2011 11:59 in reply to "RE: Interesting"
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2007-03-26

Walmart positions the PS3 Slim at the center of a golden triangle of console video games, Internet enabled HDTVS, and rack upon rack of DVD and Blu-Ray videos.

Walmart knows what sells -
and it isn't Homebrew and it isn't the OtherOS.

Blu-Ray at Walmart is very much alive. But the PS3 Fat is close on to three years dead.

Each new Arkham City, Black Ops game, Blu-Ray rental or high-definition Netflix stream is a vote for the firmware upgrade.

I'm sorry to sound blunt, but that's got no relevence to this article.

It's not about what currently sells. It's about removing features from previously sold devices. It's about taking people to court because they hacked their own hardware. And it's about the disgraceful techniques Sony are using to undermine Holtz (this isn't a fair trial in the slightest).

I couldn't careless if XYZ now sells better than ABC just so long as the manufacturers of ABC don't remotely nuke /MY/ equipment /post/ purchase.

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RE: Interesting
by sorpigal on Tue 5th Apr 2011 12:56 in reply to "Interesting"
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2005-11-02

I was quite sure the movement would lose much of its strength after a few week.

If this were true then the 'movement' would have died out in 2004.

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RE[2]: Interesting
by ruinevil on Tue 5th Apr 2011 13:32 in reply to "RE: Interesting"
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2009-01-08

It's like a bowel movement; there is always an inflow of new raw materials.

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