Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Apr 2011 22:59 UTC
Windows And yes, the stream of controlled Windows 8 leaks continues. This time around, Thurrot and Rivera have published a number of screenshots from Windows 8's brand-new tablet user interface, and surprise surprise, its built on Metro, the same design language that underpins Windows Phone 7. Windows 8 will also include its own PDF reader, Modern Reader, which also happens to be the first application packaged in Microsoft's new AppX format. Update: Long Zheng has some technical details on AppX, including this little tidbit: "The extensive list of properties signifies the comprehensive scope of this system to be the ideal deployment strategy for 'applications', in all essence of the word. In fact, the AppX format is universal enough so it appears to work for everything from native Win32 applications to framework-based applications and even *gasp* web applications. Games are also supported."
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RE[2]: XPS dead?
by TemporalBeing on Tue 5th Apr 2011 15:18 UTC in reply to "RE: XPS dead?"
TemporalBeing
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But XPS was more than just a "PDF Alternative" given that the scope was to be a language that was universal for all printers as to replace the current crop of GDI based printers (aka Winprinters) and without the royalty hassles associated with Postscript. The problem with it is that Microsoft never went about transforming it from a Windows/Microsoft only technology into something present on Mac and Windows so as a consequence even though it was open it was only implemented on one platform


Many printers interop directly with PDFs too, especially when you get into the commercial grade, print-shop level printers, or systems like what is used by various publishing houses. Microsoft was trying to displace PDF at that level; but they like PDF too much and for good reason - it was specifically designed for them.

And since when has Microsoft ever made anything they did operate on more than just the Windows platform? Even MS Office for Mac is dramatically different than any other version of MS Office, including file format support.

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RE[3]: XPS dead?
by kaiwai on Tue 5th Apr 2011 15:26 in reply to "RE[2]: XPS dead?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Many printers interop directly with PDFs too, especially when you get into the commercial grade, print-shop level printers, or systems like what is used by various publishing houses. Microsoft was trying to displace PDF at that level; but they like PDF too much and for good reason - it was specifically designed for them.

And since when has Microsoft ever made anything they did operate on more than just the Windows platform? Even MS Office for Mac is dramatically different than any other version of MS Office, including file format support.


If Microsoft provided an integrated free download for Mac OS X it would be interesting how the situation might have changed, especially for printer vendors wishing to reduce the amount they have to pay per unit back to Adobe for any patented technology used. From what I understand Apple gets around some of the patented parts of PDF by simply not supporting some of the more esoteric features of the PDF specification.

The lack of focus has always been Microsoft's greatest downfall.

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RE[4]: XPS dead?
by TemporalBeing on Tue 5th Apr 2011 15:48 in reply to "RE[3]: XPS dead?"
TemporalBeing Member since:
2007-08-22

If Microsoft provided an integrated free download for Mac OS X it would be interesting how the situation might have changed, especially for printer vendors wishing to reduce the amount they have to pay per unit back to Adobe for any patented technology used. From what I understand Apple gets around some of the patented parts of PDF by simply not supporting some of the more esoteric features of the PDF specification.


That wouldn't have made one bit of difference as the major print houses do not use Windows or Mac to run the printers. They printers run customized software that is able to read PostScript and PDF files, as well as some other customize file formats specific to the typesetting industry.

Mac and Windows only affect the article writers, who ultimately have to give it to their editors and the publishing departments.

The lack of focus has always been Microsoft's greatest downfall.


A lack of focus has only been an issue since Gates stepped aside. Even then, the focus has always been on crushing competition through software that is "good enough and no better than necessary" - which yields the bug ridden, virus ridden, under-performant, bloated software that is Windows and Office that we have today.

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