Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 5th Apr 2011 22:48 UTC
Google Is Android still open now that Google has postponed the source code release of Honeycomb, version 3.0 of the mobile operating system? I've been reading a whole boatload of articles and blog posts on the web claiming Android is no longer open, but it seems like very few people seem to actually understand what 'open' really means when it comes to the GPL and the Apache license. Here's a short primer.
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Open... right...
by tuzor on Tue 5th Apr 2011 23:48 UTC
tuzor
Member since:
2007-08-07

If there's a hypocrite here then that's the writer of this article.
Google doesn't give a rat's ass about openness. All they care about is making money, just like any other major corporation.
They've only used the notion of being "open" to position themselves as the Apple competitor.
They knew they couldn't beat Apple on their terms so they had to position themselves on the opposite extreme.

Vic Gundotra in his keynote at I/O last year: If Google didn’t act, it faced a draconian future where one man, one phone, one carrier were our choice.
That’s a future we don’t want.
[…] So if you believe in openness, if you believe in choice, if you believe in innovation from everyone, then welcome to Android.


You can talk all you want about licenses and what Google is legally obligated in doing and what not, however it's a fact that behind closed doors they're starting to impose their own rules on carriers and device makers and withholding source code (seems everyone was cheering along at Andy Rubins tweet a few months ago but shutting up now). And they're doing this because they need to keep their platform viable for developers and consumers.

Andoid is not open. Google develops it on their own terms without any contribution from the community. They distribute prerelease builds to whomever they choose fit. They release source code whenever they see fit. And now they're imposing rules on what carriers can alter on the OS when selling the devices.

PS: It's funny how many Android and MS fanboy bloggers/writers are taking jabs at Gruber lately, hoping they'll get a response (a desperate shot at getting numerous hits and the blogosphere noticing your existence).

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RE: Open... right...
by JAlexoid on Tue 5th Apr 2011 23:55 in reply to "Open... right..."
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Andoid is not open.

Android is open.(using the command in rubin's status still produce an Android image ver 2.3.3) Honeycomb has not been opensourced. Google's apps and Market were never open.

Can we stop at that?

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RE[2]: Open... right...
by mrstep on Wed 6th Apr 2011 03:35 in reply to "RE: Open... right..."
mrstep Member since:
2009-07-18

Oh, open as in 'old source' being open, not the current stuff. Sure, we can stop then - I assume Google will stop being a giant corp beating a "we're not another big giant evil mega-corp" marketing drum too, right?

I think it makes sense for Google to control the platform more tightly - they are becoming Windows Mobile as it is. But then their marketing crap should get tossed. Open as in 'you can contribute' open? Uh, no. Open as in 'we release it and everyone has access' open? Uh, no again. I'd criticize Apple or Microsoft for not being 'open', but then again they never made that sort of claim part of their marketing.

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RE: Open... right...
by testman on Wed 6th Apr 2011 00:00 in reply to "Open... right..."
testman Member since:
2007-10-15

They knew they couldn't beat Apple on their terms so they had to position themselves on the opposite extreme.


Yep. Marketing. That's what "major corporations" do. Or any business for that matter.

It doesn't matter how open Android is; only nerds, hippies, freetards and other people with vested interests care. The important thing is that the overall public understand the importance and percieve Google as being a champion of their "freedom".

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RE[2]: Open... right...
by tomcat on Wed 6th Apr 2011 00:34 in reply to "RE: Open... right..."
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

The important thing is that the overall public understand the importance and percieve Google as being a champion of their "freedom".


Except that Google is NOT a "champion of their 'freedom'"; where 'freedom' means the ability to use a device any way that the user wants to use it. And, frankly, that's the only definition that makes sense.

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RE[2]: Open... right...
by milliamp on Wed 6th Apr 2011 04:48 in reply to "RE: Open... right..."
milliamp Member since:
2011-03-29

[q]...only nerds, hippies, freetards ....


Why oh why did it take me so long to discover this beautiful word? If only this word had been part of my vocabulary 10 years ago. I think this is what love feels like. I thank you Mr testman.

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RE: Open... right...
by Soulbender on Wed 6th Apr 2011 05:29 in reply to "Open... right..."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

a desperate shot at getting numerous hits and the blogosphere noticing your existence


are you talking about Gruber or the fanbois? It's hard to tell...

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