Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Apr 2011 23:07 UTC
Legal "The hacker hordes of Anonymous have transferred their fickle attention to Sony. They are currently attacking the company's online Playstation store in retribution for Sony's lawsuit against PS3 hacker George Hotz. A denial of service attack has temporarily taken down playstation.com."
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RE[6]: Meh... except for this
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 6th Apr 2011 01:35 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Meh... except for this"
UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

First you say that doing virtual damage is indeed virtual vandalism, and then right next to it you say it isn't vandalism. Way to counter yourself.

The Rootkit installed itself on users' machines at the lowest level possible, gaining root access of the machine. Key words... *installed itself*. As in, modified the system. And in a big way, down to the kernel level, gaining complete access to hide itself and do its business (ie. work against the computer owner's wishes by causing it to fail to rip audio CDs). The "fix" brought in some serious vulnerabilities. It was a great example why AutoRun is a bad idea, and could not even be trusted for what seemed to be innocent redbook audio CDs bought by an entity as "innocent" as a corporation.

In comparison, all the DDoS did was temporarily stress Sony's machines, causing no permanent damage--just server downtime, until the incoming connections are few enough that the system could cope with it again. It did not modify the system in any major way other than maybe a massive log of incoming/outgoing connections.

What's the contradiction? If they really want the DDoS to stop as soon as possible, they come in and modify their network to block attackers. If not, wait, and once it's done the system will be working as usual anyway. Either way, same outcome; some downtime followed by business as usual.

Vandalization = Actual damage; unintended and undesired system modification. Rootkit.
Inconvenience = This case of server downtime. DDoS.

Once news breaks here that someone has used a DDoS attack (or used some other method of gaining access) to purposely break into and tamper with Sony's systems, then things change. *Then* it's vandalism, intrusion, etc. But as it is, it's just a minor inconvenience for PS3 online players because Sony's machines just can't handle the extra connections. They just had to wait it out a bit if they wanted to continue flipping over Giant Enemy Crabs and attacking their weak points for MASSIVE DAMAGE to get higher scores than their online friends. [Sorry, just had to pull off the E3 joke, as old and unfunny as it probably is these days.]

Maybe instead of pissing off the public, Sony could have avoided all this by not being assholes, and not going to court over their users' freedom of the devices they own. That money Sony blew (and is continuing to blow) to fight against jailbreaking in the courts could have been better spent on, oh, I don't know... upgraded hardware that would take more of a beating under heavy loads? Just a thought. Then again, if Sony never brought this upon themselves, they wouldn't be facing a DDoS attack in the first place. All of the things they could be doing and spending money on to improve the experience of their users... yet it seems they would prefer to be assholes every step of the way. Their (and their customers') problem that they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

Edited 2011-04-06 01:48 UTC

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Vandalization = Actual damage; unintended and undesired system modification. Rootkit.


van·dal·ize
(vndl-z)
tr.v. van·dal·ized, van·dal·iz·ing, van·dal·iz·es
To destroy or deface (public or private property) willfully or maliciously.

The rootkit wasn't intended to cause all the issues it did, ergo it wasn't trying to destroy or deface anything willfully. The fact that Sony devs were incompetent doesn't mean it was an act of vandalism.

Note that I am not arguing that what Sony has done has been in any way or form acceptable. I am just saying you're using the term 'vandalism' incorrectly.

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