Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Apr 2011 17:50 UTC, submitted by Cytor
Gnome The day is finally here, the day that the GNOME team releases GNOME 3.0, the first major revision of the GNOME project since 2002. Little of GNOME 2.x is left in GNOME 3.0, and as such, you could call it GNOME's KDE4. We're living in fortunate times, what, with two wildly divergent open source desktops.
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RE[3]: Sigh...
by phoenix on Wed 6th Apr 2011 19:52 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Sigh..."
phoenix
Member since:
2005-07-11

Windows 3.11 --> Windows 95: drastically different UI.

Windows NT 3.x --> Windows NT 4.0: drastically different UI.

Windows 2K/9x --> Windows XP: drastically different UI.

Windows XP --> Windows 7: drastically different UI.

Same for their Office suites (Office 2.0 -> 6.0 -> 95 -> 2003 -> 2007).

Yeah, it's great that Microsoft doesn't foist radically different UIs onto it's users :roll-eyes: Especially considering how little benefit there actually is to the new interface(s) compared to the old.

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RE[4]: Sigh...
by dylansmrjones on Wed 6th Apr 2011 20:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Sigh..."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Actually you're mistaken in regard to Win2K/9X and switch to later versions. UI!=GUI.

Apart from skinning there is no particular difference between Windows 95 and Windows XP in the way you interact with the Desktop. Windows 7 is merely minor differences on that particular implementation of the Desktop Metaphor.

There is also no particularly difference for earlier versions of MS Office. Not until 2007 does anything major happen, apart from the ever creasing number of menu items and toolbar buttons.

From a UI perspective there is very little difference on the first Mac and Windows 7 or XFCE - or even KDE4. The Gnome Shell deviates strongly, and is pushing me towards KDE4, since I don't mind giving up on GTK ;)

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RE[5]: Sigh...
by tylerdurden on Wed 6th Apr 2011 21:14 in reply to "RE[4]: Sigh..."
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Other than the interface being completely different, the location and behavior of the main system components in the UI being fundamentally altered. Yeah, you're right there are "minor" differences across those windows versions.

Apparently, a GUI for some people only consists of "close window" functionality, and the location of the "start" button (which actually stops the machine, but who is really paying attention).

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RE[5]: Sigh...
by Neolander on Thu 7th Apr 2011 06:16 in reply to "RE[4]: Sigh..."
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Actually you're mistaken in regard to Win2K/9X and switch to later versions. UI!=GUI.

Apart from skinning there is no particular difference between Windows 95 and Windows XP in the way you interact with the Desktop. Windows 7 is merely minor differences on that particular implementation of the Desktop Metaphor.

Ever heard of that thing which Windows Vista called its file explorer? Or the regular mutations of the Control Panel in NT?

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RE[4]: Sigh...
by danieldk on Wed 6th Apr 2011 21:03 in reply to "RE[3]: Sigh..."
danieldk Member since:
2005-11-18

Windows 3.1 to Windows 95/NT4 was quite a change indeed. But I disagree on newer versions. I rarely use Windows, but the small amount of 'Windows UI knowledge' was effortlessly transferable between Windows versions.

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RE[5]: Sigh...
by tylerdurden on Wed 6th Apr 2011 21:16 in reply to "RE[4]: Sigh..."
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

And same could be said about this gnome transition.

So I fail to see why is it that what was good for the goose is now so awful for the gander.

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RE[4]: Sigh...
by BluenoseJake on Wed 6th Apr 2011 21:55 in reply to "RE[3]: Sigh..."
BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

the NT4-->XP-->Vista/7 ui changes were not that drastic, not near as Gnome 2.x to Gnome 3, and to suggest otherwise is just trolling.

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by Icaria on Thu 7th Apr 2011 08:40 in reply to "RE[4]: Sigh..."
Icaria Member since:
2010-06-19

XP-Vista gave you a whole new HIG, 500 new widgets, a reworked graphical stack and a tonne of more obscure functionality and options. That's not necessarily a bad thing (although I have my complaints) but it was a radical departure, nonetheless.

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RE[4]: Sigh...
by Luminair on Thu 7th Apr 2011 16:58 in reply to "RE[3]: Sigh..."
Luminair Member since:
2007-03-30

Windows 3.11 --> Windows 95: drastically different UI.

Windows NT 3.x --> Windows NT 4.0: drastically different UI.

Windows 2K/9x --> Windows XP: drastically different UI.

Windows XP --> Windows 7: drastically different UI.

Same for their Office suites (Office 2.0 -> 6.0 -> 95 -> 2003 -> 2007).

Yeah, it's great that Microsoft doesn't foist radically different UIs onto it's users :roll-eyes: Especially considering how little benefit there actually is to the new interface(s) compared to the old.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8K87H3T1UU#t=27s

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