Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 6th Apr 2011 17:50 UTC, submitted by Cytor
Gnome The day is finally here, the day that the GNOME team releases GNOME 3.0, the first major revision of the GNOME project since 2002. Little of GNOME 2.x is left in GNOME 3.0, and as such, you could call it GNOME's KDE4. We're living in fortunate times, what, with two wildly divergent open source desktops.
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korpenkraxar
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2005-09-10

The Gnome 3.0 release is nothing like the KDE 4.0 release.

KDE 4.0 latter was slow, unstable and not very functional. Gnome 3.0 is smooth, stable, nice looking and indeed very functional.

Can things in Gnome 3 be improved? Certainly!
Will they improve in upcoming releases? Certainly!
Will your favorite feature be implemented? Perhaps! Start by letting them know what you think and come up with constructive ideas :-)

For many of us, Gnome 3 presents a radical shift in window and notification management. I run a huge gkrellm panel with *a lot* continuously updated sensors and data, have 10-20 programs running at the same time and many chat sessions going. Having switched between Gnome Shell and KDE 4.6 for a while, I have come to realize I am probably one of those power users who really benefit from cutting back on UI elements to avoid distraction.

In KDE 4.6 I had pretty much given up on managing windows and workspaces and I was flooded by fairly useless notifications. I never found a Plasma theme that blended well with the Oxygen widgets.

I find Gnome 3 to fit my lazy UI management better. I tend to run more programs maximized and actually bother using workspaces. I would not say I am faster in locating arbitrary windows, but instead I am more focused on what I am doing and less distracted at little or no expense to fast task switching. Could I set up KDE to emulate some of this? Probably. Would I ever bother? No. Even if I did, I would not get the performance and automated workspace management that Gnome Shell provides.

I now have gkrellm running as a window below all other windows and switch to a free workspace to look at it when I need to. I realize I could have done this before as well, but when using Gnome Shell, I somehow stand less widgets and clutter and expect a calmer interface.

Overall I am very pleased with Gnome Shell. It has a level of smoothness to it that I have yet to experience in Kwin and Plasma. I think this is just the beginning in rethinking Desktop UIs and that other DEs will develop along these lines.

Edited 2011-04-07 09:49 UTC

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pashar Member since:
2006-07-12

Gnome 3.0 is smooth, stable, nice looking and indeed very functional.

Yes, it looks nice, but it is absolutely not functional. It misses a lot of functionality I'm using daily with Gnome 2. There is no easy and fast way to see what apps are running. Access to menu is slow and absolutely inconvenient - move mouse to corner, then select applications, then try to find your application among all the icons - it is very confusing even computer-literate users.

Will your favorite feature be implemented? Perhaps! Start by letting them know what you think and come up with constructive ideas :-)

I have very constuctive idea: look at the long list of features removed and implement them all. Here are just few of them, for start:
1. Make panel configurable and movable
2. Bring back all those gnome applets
3. Make things confirurable.
4. Bring back launchers
5. Make normal fallback mode, which really has features of Gnome2, not the same useless interface, but also ugly.

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korpenkraxar Member since:
2005-09-10

There is no easy and fast way to see what apps are running.


For those who need it, I think it would be nice to provide the dash (?) or similar panel on the desktop and autohide it using some "intellihide" algorithm. AFAIK, there is already work on such a dock extension:

https://piecesoflint.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/how-to-tweak-gnome-3-t...

If such a solution is inadequate, I would suggest using one of the many fine separate panels available, such as Avant Window Navigator or similar.


Access to menu is slow and absolutely inconvenient - move mouse to corner, then select applications, then try to find your application among all the icons - it is very confusing even computer-literate users.


Nah, it can also be blazing fast. Hit Win/Meta/Mod4 key and you can start typing the name of the application even before you see the search window.

I have very constuctive idea: look at the long list of features removed and implement them all. Here are just few of them, for start:
1. Make panel configurable and movable
2. Bring back all those gnome applets
3. Make things confirurable.
4. Bring back launchers
5. Make normal fallback mode, which really has features of Gnome2, not the same useless interface, but also ugly.


Yeah I too wish that those dash icons were launchers that I could right click and configure the commands for. But this is a minor speed bump for me. If these are essential to you, I suggest you stick to Gnome 2 for the foreseeable future. I am sure it will be maintained for a while or perhaps even forked by those who care for it.

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AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

"Yes, it looks nice, but it is absolutely not functional. It misses a lot of functionality I'm using daily with Gnome 2. There is no easy and fast way to see what apps are running."

Why would you need to? Why does it matter what apps are running? If you need to do something, you switch to the app that does that thing. Does it matter if the app is running at present or not? Do you need to know whether an app is running in order to decide what you want to do next? Then why is this information that's so useful the desktop should waste space to tell you about _all the time_?

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