Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 7th Apr 2011 22:15 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Geeks.com sent us in an Android 2.2 tablet, the MID M80003W. They recently populated their store with a number of cheap tablets, so we thought it was a good idea to see what one could expect from these products that seem to have flooded the market recently.
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RE[2]: Young market
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 8th Apr 2011 11:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Young market"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

For regular users, the iPad is the first computer that does more for them.


...but they can't use it without first learning how to use a normal computer so they can run iTunes.

Argument fail.

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RE[3]: Young market
by t3RRa on Fri 8th Apr 2011 13:18 in reply to "RE[2]: Young market"
t3RRa Member since:
2005-11-22

At Apple store the staff members would help activating for the first time, Afterwards, buyers do not really need to use iTunes at all unless they have something of need. So they do not really need to learn how to use normal computers either.

Argument fail.

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RE[4]: Young market
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 8th Apr 2011 13:24 in reply to "RE[3]: Young market"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

At Apple store the staff members would help activating for the first time, Afterwards, buyers do not really need to use iTunes at all unless they have something of need. So they do not really need to learn how to use normal computers either.


- updates.

- Apple Stores are really only prevalent in the US. Remember: most of the world does not live in the US. Here, we buy our Apple stuff in normal stores. They won't do this for you.

- getting files on there requires iTunes. Once again: the iTMS is really only useful in the US, since outside of there, it's a barren wasteland with no TV shows, no movies, no nothing. In other words, other sources must be used, ergo, desktop iTunes.

The RDF is strong in you.

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RE[3]: Young market
by Kroc on Fri 8th Apr 2011 13:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Young market"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Argument fail.


Excuse me? You’re talking to the guy who posted this: http://www.osnews.com/story/24489/What_Apple_Mean_by_Post-PC_

That's my argument! ;)

Look, geeks are too blinded to admit it, but user-experience trumps power. The future is devices that put user experience first.

Google, and many technologists think this is about mobile OSes. It's not. It's about user experience. Apple don't sell an OS, they sell a tablet. A tablet that is a run away success whence we've had tablets since 2003 and they were a flop. The user experience is the difference. iPod. iPhone. iPad. How could any geek be so zealous to be blind to this fact? Apple are successful not because of marketing (they have a smaller budget than others), not because of technology (they have a smaller R&D than others), but because when a consumer users an Apple product it's so vastly better in their experience that they have to tell their friends about it. Any customer I’ve had that has switched to Mac has told me that they won't ever go back. Is it because the Mac had more RAM? No. Faster processor? No. You can get bigger and faster for less anywhere. Simple, it's a better user experience, period.

This is what I mean when an iPad is a better computer and does more for regular users.

The iPad has fatal flaws, put in place by Apple who don't want to see the full potential of the device at this time—it is tethered to iTunes.

That doesn't make it less of a better tablet than any other tablet out there, it just makes it less of an iPad. Until something comes along that can equal the user experience of an iPad (software polish, something Android is comprehensively terrible at) then geeks will continue to vent their frustrations at a device that outsells everything but offers less for geeks.

Geeks need to get over themselves and realise that they don't matter any more. Computers aren't tools just for engineers, they're something everybody of all walks of life want and use.

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RE[4]: Young market
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 8th Apr 2011 14:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Young market"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Until something comes along that can equal the user experience of an iPad (software polish, something Android is comprehensively terrible at) then geeks will continue to vent their frustrations at a device that outsells everything but offers less for geeks.


You do realise that everyone was saying the exact same things about Android back in the G1 days, right?

It is inevitable: Android tablets WILL overtake the iPad in sales within 18-24 months, just as it happened with Android on phones. It doesn't matter what the situation is like NOW, it matters what it's like in the long run.

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RE[4]: Young market
by unclefester on Sat 9th Apr 2011 05:05 in reply to "RE[3]: Young market"
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2007-01-13

Apple gets so much free marketing by brainwashed sycophants in the media it's not funny. If Apple sold gift-wrapped dog turds for $100 the press would announce that this "innovation" was more important than the Second Coming of the Messiah.

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RE[4]: Young market
by Alfman on Sat 9th Apr 2011 20:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Young market"
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2011-01-28

"Apple don't sell an OS, they sell a tablet."

Pure semantics, they bundle the two together, and since the OS is not available seperately, it's not invalid to say that they do sell an OS.

Just because apple want to control everything from the hardware to to the operating system to the monopoly marketplace for software doesn't actually mean it's what the users need/want.

Before being sued into the ground, Psystar had demonstrated this quite clearly.

"A tablet that is a run away success whence we've had tablets since 2003 and they were a flop."

Many have tried and failed at tablets over the years (including apple, lets not forget). It seems that pricing and functionality needed to converge into something that consumers would be comfortable with before they would be a hit. And that's finally happening.

I'm positive I wasn't the only one eyeing the tablet PCs from a decade ago, the major setback was the enormous price tag compared to laptops.

Apple in particular was able to leverage it's iphone success into a viable tablet pc market. This gave customers a chance to upgrade their iphone, which was important. Otherwise, many would have seen the apple tablet as a downgrade from their PC. Hypothetically, without the iphone market to precede it, the apple tablet standing on it's own in a walled garden would probably be a flop.

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