Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 10th Apr 2011 19:57 UTC, submitted by PLan
Legal Should I be sad or relieved? Groklaw, the website that played a central role in the SCO vs. sanity case, has just announced it will close up shop on May 16 of this year. Groklaw's place in history has been secured, surely, but in recent years, the site became more and more like a relic from the past, clearly stuck in the everyone vs. Microsoft mindset of the late '90s and early 2000s. Even in today's announcement post, Groklaw shows that its time has indeed come.
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spiderman
Member since:
2008-10-23


We actually are. SLC, Utah.

OK, sorry I wasn't aware about this. That explains everything. For your information, while Symbian is almost unheard of in the US, it is the dominant mobile OS in the rest or the world. The US is a very special market when it comes to mobile phones, because of CDMA and some other factors. The US market is actually still a very small market, although it has been catching up to the rest of the world recently, it is still lagging behind. Microsoft has been trying to enter the mobile market for almost a decade (long before the video game market) and failed, long before Android or iOS even existed.

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nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

The US market is actually still a very small market, although it has been catching up to the rest of the world recently, it is still lagging behind.


The US is the largest smartphone market. I'm not sure how you would view it as "very small" in any context.

Microsoft has been trying to enter the mobile market for almost a decade (long before the video game market) and failed, long before Android or iOS even existed.


Since when does having a small market share equate failure?

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spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23


The US is the largest smartphone market. I'm not sure how you would view it as "very small" in any context.

Not by a long shot.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

The US is the largest smartphone market.


Depends on how you define your markets. For example, while individual countries in Europe (or Asia) may not constitute bigger markets the region as whole may do.

Since when does having a small market share equate failure?


Depends on what argument you're trying to make. A common argument seems to be that Linux on the desktop is a failure due to small market share.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Well, windows mobile certainly was not a success on the scale of the iphone, android,blackberry, or symbian. I can't imagine Microsoft's goal with their smart-phones was to be bad enough to be dropped when presented with a choice of a phone with any other operating system. So, yeah I'd consider it to be a failure.

It would be interesting to see some inside numbers on the profitability of the phone OS from 2002 to today. I can't imagine it was very profitable. It also didn't appear to give them any kind of head start in the smart phone market. It really does look like a wasted effort.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

. For your information, while Symbian is almost unheard of in the US, it is the dominant mobile OS in the rest or the world.

If you define Dominant as "wildy unpopular, with a large quickly declining legacy marketshare." Then yes, you are correct. Symbian is not going to compete with Ios/Android/Blackberry/HPalm/. Nokia is going ahead with MS, not symbian as their flagship Mobile Operating System.

Also, Win Mobile 7, IOS, Android were created out of the United states. The market still sucks for carriers, but the phones are top notch and are influencing the international market share dramatically.

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