Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Apr 2011 22:27 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless The long-rumoured Symbian update, called Anna, has finally been made official by Nokia today, bringing with it a new browser, new icons, an on-screen portrait qwerty keyboard, and more. The Finnish Windows Phone OEM (sorry) also launched two new Symbian phones today.
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RE[7]: on display until..
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 13th Apr 2011 13:27 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: on display until.."
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Plus why should Nokia even settle for being just as good as HTC? They were kings. Being an OEM will only ever make them just as good as the next best OEM - which is only a fraction as good as they could be if they own the whole layer and do it well.


The only reason Symbian sold so well was because it did not face any competition. Symbian has NEVER been a good smartphone operating system, despite what everybody's been saying. Windows Mobile was better, PalmOS was better - iOS is better, Android is better, WP7 is better, and WebOS is better.

Symbian is being slaughtered, and rightfully so, because it is simply not fit for the task. Despite years of development, despite years of Nokia throwing money at it, it STILL DOES NOT COMPARE. How many more years must Nokia throw money at this trainwreck before people like you finally accept it's simply not budging?

The drop in market share for Symbian is staggering, and the rise of Android and iOS is unheard of compared to just about any other technology market. This is not a coincidence - it's a sign that people do not like Symbian.

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by Laurence on Wed 13th Apr 2011 14:17 in reply to "RE[7]: on display until.."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

The only reason Symbian sold so well was because it did not face any competition. Symbian has NEVER been a good smartphone operating system, despite what everybody's been saying. Windows Mobile was better, PalmOS was better - iOS is better, Android is better, WP7 is better, and WebOS is better.

I can't speak for PalmOS, but I really didn't like Window Mobile. It was an ugly thing and horrible to navigate. It was just about tolerable on a PDA but as a smart phone OS it was terrible.

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by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 13th Apr 2011 14:19 in reply to "RE[8]: on display until.."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I can't speak for PalmOS


Basically think of iOS but slightly less stable and bit uglier.

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by spiderman on Wed 13th Apr 2011 14:21 in reply to "RE[7]: on display until.."
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

That is the kind of hate I talked about earlier. You seem to hate Symbian but you have no valid reason. You point out market share drop to comfort yourself in your hate, although you don't know what it means. For your information, every single mobile OS had a market share drop when Android entered the market, the worst being Windows Phone. This is the mathematical effect of a new player entering the statistics. It does not mean what you think it means. Symbian is actually the 2nd fastest growing OS after Android. Android started from 0, that is why it has a fast growth.

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by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 13th Apr 2011 14:26 in reply to "RE[8]: on display until.."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

That is the kind of hate I talked about earlier. You seem to hate Symbian but you have no valid reason.


I have owned several Symbian phones over the years, until very recently. Do you want me to list my problems with it?

- application load time is slow
- UI responsiveness is terrible (typing really fast is impossible because the UI needs to catch up)
- nested menu after nested menu
- settings are all over the place
- application quality is abysmal
- browser is a piece of shit
- the email application is an exercise in frustration

And that's just from the top of my head. Please, don't call my dislike of Symbian irrational. It's based on YEARS of experience.

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by jarkkot on Wed 13th Apr 2011 16:35 in reply to "RE[7]: on display until.."
jarkkot Member since:
2010-01-14

Symbian is the only smartphone operating system. ios, Android, WP7, etc are operating systems for tablets, the devices are small form factor tablets where phone is just another application among others.

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by Morgan on Fri 15th Apr 2011 01:06 in reply to "RE[7]: on display until.."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I agree, Symbian has always been my least favorite of the smartphone OSes, below even WinMo. Hell, I still miss my old Palm Treo 650, it was probably the best smartphone I've ever owned. It was highly customizable, had threaded messaging before anyone else did, excellent email support, a decent browser, and rock-solid dependability (the only time it ever crashed on me was when I tried obscure apps). It had access to the vast repositories of Palm apps -- some of them going all the way back to the 90s -- before the iPhone was even announced, much less the App Store.

All that and more in a touch screen phone with a physical keyboard, and the only two issues I ever had with it were the thickness of it (about the same as my N900) and the external antenna. It's too bad Palm OS died such a horrible death.

Damn, now I'm tempted to troll eBay and murkier sources for an unlocked Treo so I can have a retro alternative to my N900 and Nuron.

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