Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Apr 2011 21:29 UTC
Legal Well. Raise your hands if you didn't see this one coming. Nobody is safe from Apple's and Microsoft's legal crusade against Android, not even Samsung, which supplies a lot of chips to Apple. Apple has sued Samsung for copying Cupertino's look and feel in various Samsung devices. This is about as surprising as the tides rolling in. Update: And Samsung's going to strike back. Hit 'm hard, Samsung. I don't like you anymore than any of these other patent trolls, but maybe we'll finally see it all crash and burn.
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Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 18th Apr 2011 21:55 UTC
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

Just because I couldn't post it in the article itself, here's my response on FaceBook - which more accurately reflects my opinion than what's in this article due to me not being allowed to curse in articles and shit.

I hope the entire mobile industry collapses. I've had with those fcuking litigious, power-hungry, anti-consumer companies. Let 'm all die and rot in hell for all I care. Fcuk iOS, fcuk Android, fcuk webOS, fcuk WP7. YOU'RE ALL COPYING PALMOS ANYWAY, BITCHES.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by umccullough on Mon 18th Apr 2011 22:02 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Hey!, you can join me in my boycott of cell phones (and tablets) altogether ;)

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RE[2]: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by bryanv on Wed 20th Apr 2011 03:22 in reply to "RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
bryanv Member since:
2005-08-26

Dude, I'm in!

Ok, I'll keep the phone, but it'll be a 'dumb' phone.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Beta on Mon 18th Apr 2011 23:29 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

I hope the entire mobile industry collapses. I've had with those fcuking litigious, power-hungry, anti-consumer companies. Let 'm all die and rot in hell for all I care. Fcuk iOS, fcuk Android, fcuk webOS, fcuk WP7. YOU'RE ALL COPYING PALMOS ANYWAY, BITCHES.


:( But Android and WebOS haven't been litigious at all, they're just doing their thing and hoping people adopt them.

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v RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by jackeebleu on Tue 19th Apr 2011 00:47 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

No, I won't. Good luck!

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umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Thom, can I start a website that named OSnews.net


If I do that, you wont accuse me of copying will you?


I'm guessing they'll nail you for trademark infringement... which is quite different than patent infringement.

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RE[2]: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by looncraz on Tue 19th Apr 2011 14:35 in reply to "RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
looncraz Member since:
2005-07-24

Samsung has been using those cables longer than Apple's been 'cool.'

I know, I have a large number of those darned things laying around ( though each and every model has its own new shape and is incompatible with the rest... :-( ).

Do us a favor, YOU find a way to build a phone which is basically nothing more than a touch-screen while no looking like EVERY OTHER such device on the market.

Just try it!!

Can't do it, eh?

Sure is hard when the primary design element is a large darn screen, eh?

--The loon

P.S. The iPad is a blatant copy of Be's BeIA Webpad. I know, I used to own one. Except it was actually more capable.

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RE[2]: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Priest on Wed 20th Apr 2011 01:24 in reply to "RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Priest Member since:
2006-05-12

To be fair, how different does one black touch screen phone look from the next?

The speaker has to fit between the top of the screen and the edge of the frame so it needs to be a small rectangle.

Apple is squared and the Samsung has rounded corners.

Just because Apple was one of the first to start using touch screen phones does not mean they invented the idea.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by allanregistos on Tue 19th Apr 2011 01:45 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
allanregistos Member since:
2011-02-10

Just because I couldn't post it in the article itself, here's my response on FaceBook - which more accurately reflects my opinion than what's in this article due to me not being allowed to curse in articles and shit.

"I hope the entire mobile industry collapses. I've had with those fcuking litigious, power-hungry, anti-consumer companies. Let 'm all die and rot in hell for all I care. Fcuk iOS, fcuk Android, fcuk webOS, fcuk WP7. YOU'RE ALL COPYING PALMOS ANYWAY, BITCHES.
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Hey thom, your curses, won't solve the U.S. patent problems we have. Calm down. Accept that as long as we live there are people who create problems and people who try to solve those created problems. There are those who try and use evil to solve problems, and don't be like them, cursing companies won't do you any good publicly or privately. Just an advice from a friendly stranger.

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Playing the ugly game...
by Torbjorn Vik Lunde on Tue 19th Apr 2011 14:06 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Torbjorn Vik Lunde Member since:
2009-09-04

I agree that the practices of these phone companies is rather ugly, but how are they different from other large corporations. I find that big bussines is ugly, period.

I think the legal and economic system is to blame. Apple, Samsung, Nokia all the others... they are just playing the game. It's and ugly game, but they have to play it.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Morgan on Tue 19th Apr 2011 23:33 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Hear hear! I'd love to see a new PalmOS (not WebOS, actual Garnet or post-Garnet) phone, backwards compatible with classic Palm apps as well as modern apps.

Unfortunately that ship sailed years ago, but it's nice to dream...

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by kaiwai on Wed 20th Apr 2011 21:50 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Just because I couldn't post it in the article itself, here's my response on FaceBook - which more accurately reflects my opinion than what's in this article due to me not being allowed to curse in articles and shit.

I hope the entire mobile industry collapses. I've had with those fcuking litigious, power-hungry, anti-consumer companies. Let 'm all die and rot in hell for all I care. Fcuk iOS, fcuk Android, fcuk webOS, fcuk WP7. YOU'RE ALL COPYING PALMOS ANYWAY, BITCHES.


I second that sentiment. What confuses me is how broad the patent is to the point that it could pretty much lock out anyone from the touch based mobile phone market by virtue of something looking 'very similar' to what Apple offers. When one looks at the layout etc. of Apple's iOS, it hardly seems 'innovative' given that it seems the most obvious way of going about doing something because at the end of the day there are a limited number of ways you can do something with a screen that small.

Imagine if the first GUI was patented - if you made any use of 'icons' you had to pay a royalty for the use of a patented technology where said technology was defined as 'a picture, text or a combination of both representing a document, application or some other entity an end user wishes to access'.

PS. I'm a happy Windows Phone 7 user who has an iMac and MacBook Pro so it has nothing to do with 'player hating' and everything to do with pointing out the stupidity of the patent system to begin with.

Edited 2011-04-20 21:52 UTC

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by elsewhere on Thu 21st Apr 2011 04:46 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

YOU'RE ALL COPYING PALMOS ANYWAY, BITCHES.


Well, one could argue that PalmOS was copying the Newton. Fortunately for Palm/HP, the Newton was Scully's baby, which means that it officially never existed as far as Jobs is concerned.

EDIT: Bah, should have read the rest of the comments before replying. This is redundant, nothing to see here...

Edited 2011-04-21 04:48 UTC

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