Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Apr 2011 09:20 UTC
Google The revolution has begun! Web video will be freed from the shackles of the MPEG-LA and the dreaded claws of patents and incomprehensible licenses! Sorry, I got a little carried away there. Anywho, YouTube has announced all new videos uploaded to the site will be transcoded into WebM, and that the most important part of the site's catalogue is already available in WebM.
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RE: What Youtube SHOULD do!!
by dvhh on Wed 20th Apr 2011 09:56 UTC in reply to "What Youtube SHOULD do!!"
dvhh
Member since:
2006-03-20

Expected reaction:
IE user blame IE on not supporting youtube, microsoft point again finger in monopoly suit.
Safari user blame google for not supporting safari, Apple fans point finger at google for monopoly suit.

Result:

Not happening anytime soon

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RE[2]: What Youtube SHOULD do!!
by _txf_ on Wed 20th Apr 2011 10:00 in reply to "RE: What Youtube SHOULD do!!"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Expected reaction:
IE user blame IE on not supporting youtube, microsoft point again finger in monopoly suit.
Safari user blame google for not supporting safari, Apple fans point finger at google for monopoly suit.

Result:

Not happening anytime soon


they can hardly point fingers when the format is freely available... it would be a different story if they couldn't interoperate with youtube

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RE[2]: What Youtube SHOULD do!!
by ichi on Wed 20th Apr 2011 10:15 in reply to "RE: What Youtube SHOULD do!!"
ichi Member since:
2007-03-06

Enforcing a bug ridden proprietary plugin with a royalty and patent plagued codec from the MPEG-LA trolls: fine.
Enforcing an open and royalty free codec through HTML5: monopoly suit?

Madness, I tell you.

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RE[2]: What Youtube SHOULD do!!
by kaiwai on Wed 20th Apr 2011 12:33 in reply to "RE: What Youtube SHOULD do!!"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Expected reaction:
IE user blame IE on not supporting youtube, microsoft point again finger in monopoly suit.
Safari user blame google for not supporting safari, Apple fans point finger at google for monopoly suit.

Result:

Not happening anytime soon


They could do it fairly soon given that Adobe has committed themselves to providing WebM support in Flash which means even if the end user doesn't have a browser that supports WebM they can still watch it using the Flash player.

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RichterKuato Member since:
2010-05-14

Actually, they committed themselves to VP8 support. WebM support was never mentioned read the fine print:
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform/2010/05/adobe_support_for_vp8....

My guess is by the end of June, Flash Player 11 be out with VP8 support but you'll need to use it with one of their proprietary container formats. I hope I'm wrong.

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RE[2]: What Youtube SHOULD do!!
by dvhh on Wed 20th Apr 2011 13:23 in reply to "RE: What Youtube SHOULD do!!"
dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

The average youtube user (considering the top viewed video) unfortunately don't care wether a codec is free or not.

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Spiron Member since:
2011-03-08

No they wont, but thats is why people elect other smarter people to manage them. this takes the form of Governments, boards and DEVELOPERS. If the devs of youtube turn off h.264 then the people will see that and either look for a solution or pester microsoft, who will be forced to include the WebM codec and not just have it as an option

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

The average youtube user (considering the top viewed video) unfortunately don't care wether a codec is free or not.


The average YouTube website owner, however, very much does care.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

That's crazy internet armchair quarterback analysis.

What would really happen:


IE users don't view youtube, google loses advertising money.
Safari don't view youtube, google loses advertising money.
Users of older firefox browsers don't view youtube, google loses advertising money.


Google won't do that because it will cost Google money.

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RE[3]: What Youtube SHOULD do!!
by dvhh on Fri 22nd Apr 2011 03:08 in reply to "RE[2]: What Youtube SHOULD do!!"
dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

hey this is internet, and being crazy here avoid me being mad in the real world (and eventually show up at work with a chainsaw/shotgun/spoon/insert favorite weapon here ).

However I like your more pragmatic analysis, I sometimes forget how google love to make money with our eyeballs.

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