Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th Apr 2011 22:33 UTC
Legal This is interesting. I've been saying for a while now that both Apple and Microsoft are hard at work making Android as undesirable as possible. Sadly, they're not doing this by making their own products better, but by trying to make it seem as if Android isn't free due to patent costs and such. It looks like Barnes & Noble is the first company to openly say the same.
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RE: Comment by shmerl
by ecruz on Fri 29th Apr 2011 18:32 UTC in reply to "Comment by shmerl"
ecruz
Member since:
2007-06-16

For all of you screaming to save Android and B&N, nobody is trying to put them out of business.
I am pasting a comment by blogger Florian Mueller, an intellectual property activist, and he reviews B&N comments, and to me they sound empty and just trying to get a better deal from Microsoft.
Just look at how many players are paying royalties on many fronts and doing extremely well in their business. Why should B&N be any different or exempted from the same.
Read below:
"A substantial part of Barnes & Noble's filing focuses on allegations that Microsoft leverages its patents "to render the Android™ Operating System and other open source operating systems uncompetitive and unpalatable vis-à-vis Microsoft’s own operating systems" (quote from paragraph 43 of the answer to the complaint). Two paragraphs later, Barnes & Noble mentions Microsoft's patent agreement with HTC as an example. However, the HTC example clearly contradicts Barnes & Noble's theory of Android becoming "uncompetitive and unpalatable": earlier this month, HTC's market capitalization surpassed that of Nokia (and previously that of RIM). If a patent license deal with Microsoft rendered Android uncompetitively expensive like Barnes & Noble claims, how come HTC is so very profitable?".

You can read the whole blog here and make up your own mind. But to make up your own mind, some of you are disqualified already (MSFT fans, Android Fans, Apple Fans, Google fans,etc). This is only for the people that are interested in finding the truth in all arguments, not just trying to prove their point! You know who you are!

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/04/barnes-nobles-answer-to-mic...

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by shotsman on Fri 29th Apr 2011 21:45 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

FM is hardly the best person in the world to quote here.
His track record is IMHO pretty abysmal. He is not an Open Source Activist. He seems more like a Shill for the guys from Redmond.
If I were you I'd look at some of the other blogs/news sites for a more balanced opinion of Mr Meuller.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by shmerl on Fri 29th Apr 2011 22:40 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

> Just look at how many players are paying royalties on
> many fronts and doing extremely well in their
> business. Why should B&N be any different or exempted
> from the same.

Hehe. It's like saying, look how many are paying royalties to mafia bosses. Why X should be different? Isn't it stupid not to pay to dark empire?

Don't be ridiculous. No one is obligated to pay anything to those robbers. They will try to rob, and are happy when someone gives in. B & N had guts to show them their place.

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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by redbeard on Sat 30th Apr 2011 16:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
redbeard Member since:
2006-03-11

Nice summary of the whole thing. +1

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by redbeard on Sat 30th Apr 2011 16:13 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
redbeard Member since:
2006-03-11

"Florian Mueller, an intellectual property activist . . ."

Let me fix that for you: Florian Mueller, a likely paid lobbyist for MS . . .

If you look at the things this guy post it appears as he is pushing an agenda for someone.

FROM: http://techrights.org/2010/04/11/florian-mueller-and-erika-mann/

"For those who are not aware, Florian Müller became a lobbyist, but whose lobbyist? More recently he became known for his attempts to derail the Munich migration to GNU/Linux."

My advise don't bother sending anyone his way you will likely get FUD.

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RE[2]: Comment by shmerl
by bugeyedcreepy on Sat 30th Apr 2011 22:02 in reply to "RE: Comment by shmerl"
bugeyedcreepy Member since:
2010-04-18

Dude, are you serious? Florian has a crap record at predictions and accurate commentary. Go back to his blog page and stay there please.

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