Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 29th Apr 2011 22:06 UTC, submitted by sjvn
SuSE, openSUSE Attachmate now owns Novell and therefore, by extension, also owns SUSE and openSUSE. With Oracle currently doing everything in its power to thoroughly destroy what's left of Sun's open source commitments, scepticism abound about the future of SUSE, and more specifically of openSUSE. Attachmate's CEO has answered some questions about the future of SUSE and openSUSE, and as far as words go, it's looking good.
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RE[3]: As far as words go....
by BluenoseJake on Sun 1st May 2011 01:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: As far as words go...."
BluenoseJake
Member since:
2005-08-11

Have you ever used AD? We are currently using Netware 6.5 and AD and I could tear my own eyes out every time I have to touch the Netware box. Console One is a joke It's slow, creaky, and barely usable. Takes minutes to load on my quadcore system. AD users and computers loads almost instantly, and has never crashed on me, can't say the same of Console One.

The Novell Client for Windows is one of the buggiest pieces of shit I have ever seen.

Zenworks is a monster that is clunky and virtually different every version. It tries to do too many things, and ends up doing none well.

SIPS sucks as a name service, it's nonstandard, and seems to cause problems every other day.

Compared to eDirectory, AD is stable fast, and the administrative tools are built right into the OS, It uses DNS as a name service, so it is easily administered. GPOs are really nice, useful way to push policies, so useful, that Netware even supports them, instead of doing it itself.

The world has moved on to better things, maybe you should learn the new technologies, instead of lamenting a crappy product from a company that forgot how to compete.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I'd sure like to know why more of my AD policy doesn't actually take affect on the client nodes. The central AD policy provided a security template rule to not run removable media on insert yet there I was having to add a local GPO on each machine before they stopped auto-running removable media. I'm also still writing long login scripts to cover things that should simply be policy rules.. and heaven forbid I have WinXP and Win7 trying to run the same login script without presenting a nice big error to my user. I'm still having to manage Exchange separately from AD (changes in Exchange flowing into AD instead of changes in AD properly affecting Exchange).

I can't compare with Novell as the last time I worked with that was Netware prior to eDirectory becoming a separate product. I'd sure like to see MS-LDAP be a little more effective at what it claims to do though.

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TemporalBeing Member since:
2007-08-22

The Novell Client for Windows is one of the buggiest pieces of shit I have ever seen.


Yes, Microsoft has always made sure of that though various changes in the underlying GSSAPI interfaces, etc. Novell could certainly win an Anti-trust suite against them on the matter if they ever tried. Sadly, they never have tried and Attachmate probably won't try either.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

"The Novell Client for Windows is one of the buggiest pieces of shit I have ever seen.


Yes, Microsoft has always made sure of that though various changes in the underlying GSSAPI interfaces, etc. Novell could certainly win an Anti-trust suite against them on the matter if they ever tried. Sadly, they never have tried and Attachmate probably won't try either.
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I'm sure that in the 10 years XP has been supported, or the 5 years that Vista has been supported, or the 2 that Windows 7 has been supported, Novell might have been able, at some point to put out a workable client. They haven't been able to.

This argument is just excuses, and nothing more. The api hasn't changed between SPs, just major releases. Nice troll though.

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