Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd May 2011 13:33 UTC
Apple Apple has updated its line of iMac desktops, with new processors and bumped graphical specifications. They also includes an HD FaceTime camera, which is certainly useful. The most interesting feature is, of course, that they include Thunderbolt ports - one on the 21.5" model, and two on the 27" model.
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RE[3]: radeon M?
by tupp on Tue 3rd May 2011 22:12 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: radeon M?"
tupp
Member since:
2006-11-12

You presented it as if dust-collecting holes and annoyingly noisy fans is a good thing.

Vents and/or fans are a necessity for proper, safe function and for competitive performance (unless one goes with liquid cooling or some other, more expensive cooling option). They are certainly "a good thing."

If Imacs had vents and/or fans, they wouldn't have heat problems, and they wouldn't need to use slow/crippled mobile processors. I would sooner blow the dust out of my computer every six months rather than have it catch fire (or have to settle for mediocre performance).

By the way, is it wise to put a frail, "fru-fru" computer into a harsh, dusty environment?


I prefer devices what don't need active cooling and work without stupid vent holes.

Well, then I guess you won't be getting a Macpro: http://www.macmall.com/n/Image-Gallery/macProductPages-macProductPa...

It looks like the Macpro may have one or two "stupid," "dust-collecting" holes with an "active" and "annoyingly noisy" fan.

I guess they couldn't get around the need for holes/fans on a full computer.

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RE[4]: radeon M?
by fasted on Tue 3rd May 2011 23:50 in reply to "RE[3]: radeon M?"
fasted Member since:
2006-11-09

Sigh. This is a very fast computer, mobile or no. If you could point the way to one that's as fast, as thin, as good looking and functioning as this one, I'm all ears. Of course you can't, because I've seen the one's from HP, Sony, etc., and they look big, bulky and cheap. Some even cost more, here in Canada, and come with Windows 7. By the way, I haven't heard the new MacPro, but my G5 was the quietest dual processor I ever owned.
But really, they lowered the price, raised the performance, and I'm impressed enough to consider purchasing a 27", just to run Linux on it!

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RE[5]: radeon M?
by tupp on Wed 4th May 2011 00:10 in reply to "RE[4]: radeon M?"
tupp Member since:
2006-11-12

If you could point the way to one that's as fast, as thin, as good looking and functioning as this one, I'm all ears.

I am sure there are faster ones, I am sure that there are thinner ones (and we know how important that extra 1/16" of thinness is to a computer that sits on a desk).

Functioning? Please. When it's not malfunctioning, it's a Fisher Price item, at best.

Good looking? It doesn't look so good to me, especially with that big red fire extinguisher that one must always keep adjacent to it.


By the way, I haven't heard the new MacPro, but my G5 was the quietest dual processor I ever owned.

My friend's G5 sounded like a wind tunnel.


But really, they lowered the price, raised the performance, and I'm impressed enough to consider purchasing a 27", just to run Linux on it!

Don't forget to budget for that fire extinguisher.

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RE[4]: radeon M?
by burnttoys on Wed 4th May 2011 10:35 in reply to "RE[3]: radeon M?"
burnttoys Member since:
2008-12-20

I remember this from "back in the day"...

"Amstrad decided to alter the PC by simplifying its design and reducing its power consumption. As a result, they were able to remove the power supply from the main case and feed it with power from the monitor instead. This eliminated the need for a cooling fan ... it was only a matter of time before anti-Amstrad FUD came along. Thus, unsubstantiated rumours such as that Amstrads overheated and malfunctioned as a result of not having a cooling fan, forced Amstrad to install -useless- fans in their machines where there was no power supply to be found. This illustrates how powerful FUD tactics are because they caused Amstrad to give up one of its advantages over the rest of the market just to alleviate the impression of unreliability it had been smeared with."

http://members.hellug.gr/vyruss/computing/FUD_essay.html

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RE[4]: radeon M?
by viton on Wed 4th May 2011 14:28 in reply to "RE[3]: radeon M?"
viton Member since:
2005-08-09

They are certainly "a good thing."
They're here to deal with overheating that is a problem in the first place.

use slow/crippled mobile processors.
I don't think quad core i5 @ 3.1Ghz is a slow processor.
It is at least 5 times faster then my current Core2Duo laptop, that 100% fulfill my needs. Actually I'm migrating to low-power ARM devices.

By the way, is it wise to put a frail, "fru-fru" computer into a harsh, dusty environment?
I have 3 cats so it is a little dusty place.

It looks like the Macpro may have one or two "stupid," "dust-collecting" holes with an "active" and "annoyingly noisy" fan.
I'm not an Apple fanboy, so you missed here.

Well, then I guess you won't be getting a Macpro:
You're right

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