Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd May 2011 18:50 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Research In Motion is holding its big event right now, BlackBerry World 2011, and some interesting things have already come out. First, RIM is entering into a rather pervasive partnership with Microsoft to make Bing the default through all levels of the BlackBerry operating system (includig the QNX-based one). Second, the first piece of videographic evidence of Android applications running on the PlayBook.
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RE: bing.. yuck
by mrhasbean on Tue 3rd May 2011 22:51 UTC in reply to "bing.. yuck"
mrhasbean
Member since:
2006-04-03

Until now google have been playing pretty nice compared too apple, sco ms.. I just wish there were another company like google competing making good products.


The one and only reason Google plays "pretty nice" is because they mostly don't "sell" products. They've leveraged their position in the search market to sell advertising and they aggregate other people's products and services. Any "products" Google do actually sell are well and truly subsidised by their advertising income, because in just about every case it gives them another avenue to generate advertising income.

When selling something that's tangible is a secondary business that is just there to further your primary business, it's pretty easy to "play fair". If they had everything on the line like the other companies mentioned I can guarantee they would be using all the same methods being employed by those companies to protect their business.

And for searches I use secure Scroogle - Google results without the tracking and advertising.

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RE[2]: bing.. yuck
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 3rd May 2011 22:57 in reply to "RE: bing.. yuck"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Google results without the tracking and advertising.


...but you don't use Scritunes. Oh wait, because it cannot possibly exist. Funny.

Always the same with you: it's okay for advertising company Apple to track me. It's not okay for advertising company Google to track me.

Edited 2011-05-03 22:57 UTC

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RE[2]: bing.. yuck
by Neolander on Wed 4th May 2011 07:07 in reply to "RE: bing.. yuck"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I totally agree with you : company whose products are their main source of money are fundamentally bad, because the way the market currently works forces them to maximize income at the detriment of ethics and product quality.

You just fail to take this idea to its logical conclusion, which was the OP's point : we need more companies whose main source of income is only indirectly linked to their products. Like google.

Not having to care about being profitable is the main reason why public research has in many occasions gone way further than private one in fundamental fields with no direct application, despite having significantly less money at hand. It is really a good thing.

Edited 2011-05-04 07:13 UTC

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RE[3]: bing.. yuck
by Not2Sure on Wed 4th May 2011 15:00 in reply to "RE[2]: bing.. yuck"
Not2Sure Member since:
2009-12-07

I think you fail to understand Google. Or perhaps I do and would be glad to be shown differently but it seems to me that every one of Google's products is directly related to its main source of revenue: ads.

Their goal is to enter into any market where consumer eyes or ears consume content to ensure they can slap an ad on it. Their method for dominating those markets is to force the value of existing products to zero or near-zero in those markets by leveraging their dominance in search.

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