Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th May 2011 21:51 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
Mac OS X "With the release of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion this summer, Apple will make the switch to a new kind of digital distribution for its operating system upgrades by releasing the software first through its new Mac App Store, AppleInsider has learned. The Mac App Store, available to all users running the most recent version of Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, will become the de facto method for obtaining the Lion upgrade, people familiar with the matter have revealed. Users will be able to upgrade instantly without the need for physical media by purchasing Lion through the Mac App Store." The old-fashioned regular disc version (and hopefully, on a USB drive for Air owners such as myself) will still be available.
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RE: Uhm, non-US?
by mrhasbean on Thu 5th May 2011 00:54 UTC in reply to "Uhm, non-US?"
mrhasbean
Member since:
2006-04-03

As long as the only payment method is a credit card (which many people here do not have)


You could live somewhere other than Holland if you don't have access to VISA / MasterCard DEBIT cards, which also work on iTunes FYI.

And I'd love to see these "more secure" payment options. Even with my VISA debit cards - I don't own credit cards - if I make an online purchase from ANY new source I get a phone call from my bank within five minutes confirming that it was actually me making the purchase, and similarly for any purchase over a threshold I can set. My debit cards generally have less than $100 in them at any time, I have regular transfers going in for regular bills / payments, and it takes me under a minute to transfer funds in via my phone (either via internet banking or phone banking) if I need to buy something, and the whole shooting match doesn't cost me a cent in fees.

That's good enough security for me.

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RE[2]: Uhm, non-US?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 5th May 2011 06:02 in reply to "RE: Uhm, non-US?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

And I'd love to see these "more secure" payment options.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDEAL

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RE[2]: Uhm, non-US?
by Neolander on Thu 5th May 2011 06:45 in reply to "RE: Uhm, non-US?"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

The security problem which all payment cards have is that when you give someone your card information, you give that someone the right to withdraw as much money from it as he/she desires from your bank account, anywhere, anytime. You trust third parties way, way too much. And it's because of this that you need to have your bank spamming you with phone calls instead of simply making your purchases in full peace of mind.

As Thom points out, Dutch banks have decided to fix this broken system by introducing a new payment method which is more akin to the way cash works : you give some amount of money to the third party, in a one-time transaction.

Technically, the final step of a purchase is to go to your bank's website to review the receipt and send your money, in a fashion similar to the way Paypal works.

The implementation has its issues, as an example there's no chargeback right when you use it, but it's already miles away from broadcasting your banking information everywhere on the net.

Edited 2011-05-05 06:52 UTC

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RE[3]: Uhm, non-US?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 5th May 2011 07:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Uhm, non-US?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

as an example there's no chargeback right when you use it


This is covered legally. The law states you have the right to return any purchased good online within 7 days, money returned.

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RE[3]: Uhm, non-US?
by Drumhellar on Thu 5th May 2011 18:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Uhm, non-US?"
Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

Just a nitpick: When you give somebody your card info, you don't give them the RIGHT to withdraw as much as he/she desires, but you do give them the ABILITY. You then have to trust that they don't abuse that ability.

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