Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th May 2011 22:13 UTC
Apple We've had an immense hubbub about the delay in the source code release of Honeycomb, which led to a storm of critique being sent Google's way. Turns out there's another company withholding source code, and this time it's Apple. They have stopped releasing the LGPL source code for WebKit in iOS since iOS 4.3.0, released about 8 weeks ago. Turns out - this isn't the first time Apple has refused to release (L)GPL'd code. It took them six months to release the required GPL source code for iOS 4.1.
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RE: Comment by molnarcs
by Large_Whale on Sat 7th May 2011 15:27 UTC in reply to "Comment by molnarcs"
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Please go to, the KDE/KHTML team is clearly credited in the very top of the page. Even though it is a prehistoric project branch.

Now go to that actively uses WebKit. They apparently aren't happy to say they are using Apple's efforts, nor KDE's. Even on their blog post they didn't mention "Apple" or "KDE", let alone "KHTML".

But why would they? Did Google make any Android/Chrome/Chromium presentation or speech where they credited specifically and openly Apple or KDE for the WebKit/KHTML project?
Nope. To them it's completely homeless and the only brand they like is Google. Google this, Google that. ;)

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RE[2]: Comment by molnarcs
by molnarcs on Sat 7th May 2011 18:45 in reply to "RE: Comment by molnarcs"
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WTF? The linked blog talks about Chrome ffs, not webkit. They mention that it uses webkit and they link to the webkit website, but the post is about Chrome - which is written entirely (and opensourced) by Google. Jobs, however, is talking about webkit.

In fact, Google starts their announcement with this:
Our recent launch of Google Chrome simply would not have been possible were it not for the awesome WebKit rendering engine and the amazing team behind it.

Webkit and "amazing team" are hyperlinks, the latter linking to ALL contributors. What the hell are you blathering about? (and I hope you realize the difference between a browser and a rendering engine).

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RE[3]: Comment by molnarcs
by Large_Whale on Sat 7th May 2011 22:46 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by molnarcs"
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Please, read carefully. I said specifically Apple and KDE/KHTML because you specifically said great disrespect and forgetting. And talk about current official project's website. So Jobs said they used "open source project and then made it webkit", well they did that and still who gives a ***. Certainly a major heart attack statement. WebKit is branched from KDE/KHTML and they do credit them very properly on

Does Google say they use "Apple" or "KDE" code? In the blog post? Maybe on the project's website? Nope. But apparently Google writes stuff "from scratch", so now I get it. Now I also get why Google won't opensource Honeycomb.

PS. Even the first comment on the blog post did remind them of crediting KDE/KHTML. Which of course they should've. But that's not how Google rolls. Which is sad. But I don't give a c**p. You do. Apparently just not in Google's case.

I guess bigger problem is Jobs. Let's all cry because he said something, someday ago. He says something pompous so rarely.

Get a grip man. Cheers.

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