Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th May 2011 20:35 UTC
Google It was inevitable, of course, and rightfully so: Google is having its big I/O conference, so we have to talk about the lack of Honeycomb's source code. While not violating any licenses, the lack of source code doesn't sit well with many - including myself - so it only makes sense people are asking Google about it. Andy Rubin confirmed we're never going to see Honeycomb's sources as a standalone release. He also explained what 'open' means for Android.
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RE[3]: Comment by shmerl
by Finchwizard on Wed 11th May 2011 22:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by shmerl"
Finchwizard
Member since:
2006-02-01

Someone needs to take a deep breath and go for a walk.

You're a editor of the site and all I see is a child throwing a little tantrum party because what a user has said seems to hit a little too close to the truth for your liking.

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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 11th May 2011 22:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

You're a editor of the site and all I see is a child throwing a little tantrum party because what a user has said seems to hit a little too close to the truth for your liking.


You must be new here ;) . This guy's been consistently trolling for a long time now, and I've been getting consistent complaints from readers for a long time now. On any other site, he'd been banned months ago, but I'm actually pretty relaxed about these things. However, when the consistent lies and personal attacks just keep on coming, even though the very article he is commenting to - among many - disqualifies his lies outright, then, well, I'm fully within my right to put a stop to it.

We have enough people in here who disagree with me on a regular basis without ever resorting to trolling and structural insipid lying about me.

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by Finchwizard on Wed 11th May 2011 22:38 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
Finchwizard Member since:
2006-02-01

Think you'll find I've been around for quite a long time.

Was browsing before you even registered and signed up not long after.

So I know full well how the site has grown over the last 5 years. And the hatred you have for everything Apple. It's always been pretty clear. But as of late there seems to be even more hatred and a blind eye towards everything Google does.

And I still think there's far too much personal opinions in news items that should be more blog related.

Whatever floats your boat I suppose. Having to manage large amounts of both Macs and PC's along with Linux in a network I'm always amazed at some peoples lack of real world experience with what they're reporting on, but love to have an opinion on it.

Edited 2011-05-11 22:42 UTC

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by flanque on Wed 11th May 2011 23:35 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

Fair's fair Thom, this site is full of trolls.

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by Odwalla on Thu 12th May 2011 00:52 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
Odwalla Member since:
2006-02-01

You lost me at the whole Lord's name in vain vulgarity you put in your reply, Thom. Regardless of what your personal views are you are the editor of a site that has visitors with varying religious beliefs. As the editor you should respect that and refrain from sentiments that some will find offensive.

You were probably justified in your banning of someone who you claim has been twisting your words. The problem is that your insensitive response has now made you the antagonist.

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by Aragorn992 on Thu 12th May 2011 07:11 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
Aragorn992 Member since:
2007-05-27

Fair enough. Still, part of the fun I get from this site is reading his bullshit comments and your replies ;)

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by morglum666 on Thu 12th May 2011 12:21 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
morglum666 Member since:
2005-07-06

Disclaimer: I've been visiting and posting on this site for 5 ish years.

Thom runs the site. He knows if someone is being an asshole. Put it into perspective - who would know best if a user is just obnoxious?

The funny thing about the Internet is the lack of accountability in general. When someone like Thom starts to make a user for which he provided a free service accountable, the Internet world of keyboard commandos gets up in arms..

Morglum

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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by _txf_ on Wed 11th May 2011 22:30 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Someone needs to take a deep breath and go for a walk.

You're a editor of the site and all I see is a child throwing a little tantrum party because what a user has said seems to hit a little too close to the truth for your liking.


Except it isn't the truth or anything close to it.

But either way there is no point getting annoyed by the original poster, he is probably the most marked down commenter on this site. I seldom ever see any of his comments get a positive rating (they're usually marked down into oblivion...not a sign of a meaningful but unpopular comment, more of a sign of useless trolling)

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RE[4]: Comment by shmerl
by molnarcs on Wed 11th May 2011 23:11 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by shmerl"
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

That child is your typical hit and run troll - he posts nonsense, reasonable people devote time and energy to reply, but he completely ignores them and posts the same shit over and over again in new threads. I think some annoyance is justified in this case.
Take a look here: http://www.osnews.com/thread?472631
and here: http://www.osnews.com/thread?471309
and well... take a look yourself.

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RE[5]: Comment by shmerl
by aftermath on Thu 12th May 2011 01:02 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by shmerl"
aftermath Member since:
2010-10-29

I hope I’m not being unfair here. I mean, I know this guy is a nuisance to many, but this response is even more annoying than he is.

Are you honestly criticizing somebody for leave their comment in the “comment” section? Are you honestly criticizing somebody for just leaving comments in the “comment” section and not pretending like it’s also a forum or a place for discussion? Are you honestly criticizing somebody who apparently hasn’t changed his mind on topics for expressing those opinions on any article that seems relevant to him? Are you honestly going to let everybody who replies to him off the hook even though they’re equally guilty of not changing their minds on the same topics and posting the same old replies to him whenever they see a relevant post?

He’s not even a troll. Trolls at least try to fit in so that they can trick people into jumping into a flame war. Instead, this guy is just obviously offensive, and some people are so dumb that they just follow blindly into the wake of his mayhem. That’s not a troll. That’s a jerk, but the people who blindly and righteously go after him are equally bad. In fact, this guy is doing everybody a service by making the fools plainly identify themselves.

It’s fine that you don’t share the person’s opinion. It’s fine that you can’t come to terms with the fact the he won’t change his opinion. It’s fine that you can’t come to terms with the fact that he’s going to express his opinion whenever the topic comes up. What’s not fine is that you’re obviously trying to marginalize the guy because he stands out to you. Maybe he’s right. Maybe he’s wrong. However, I’m suspicious of you. If he really is just a failed troll then your annoyance isn’t justified. Are you really this mad at the messenger?

Most people on this site say the same things over and over. You know ahead of time which comments are going to come from which people about which topics and which responses they’re going to have to which other commenters. The fact of the matter is that very few people actually add anything legitimately different to these conversation, and the simple fact that somebody has a minority, dissenting, or unpopular opinion at least adds something different, even if only predictably different, to the conversation. Of course, that’s the guy that you marginalize. No wonder your "troll" ignores everybody's "reasonable" responses.

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