Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th May 2011 20:35 UTC
Google It was inevitable, of course, and rightfully so: Google is having its big I/O conference, so we have to talk about the lack of Honeycomb's source code. While not violating any licenses, the lack of source code doesn't sit well with many - including myself - so it only makes sense people are asking Google about it. Andy Rubin confirmed we're never going to see Honeycomb's sources as a standalone release. He also explained what 'open' means for Android.
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RE[2]: "This I can agree with."
by molnarcs on Thu 12th May 2011 07:22 UTC in reply to "RE: "This I can agree with.""
molnarcs
Member since:
2005-09-10

Care to point out where Thom bashes Apple for no good reason? There are plenty of legitimate reasons for bashing APPLE. Censoring Joyce's Ulysses because line art containing nudity? Banning authors only to let them in after they won the Pulitzer prize? Pointing out some ridiculous aspects of their marketing (MAGIC!!!!)? Is that what you call Apple bashing? How about Apple's vision of the future of computing, where a single entity decides what is appropriate for you, what you can and can't do with the device you own, etc... These are some of the things Thom and many of us criticize Apple for - is that what you mean by bashing?

I'm with Viviano above:

Thom, please proceed with Apple bashing. I'd like to see osnews retaining some ideological rigor, instead of catering for everyone that may eventually click through an advertisement.

Being objective is not being in the middle. A lot of journalists in different fields think that they will look more objective if they are at equal distance from the two sides they compare. A very common fallacy. However, a good journalist is first and foremost independent and consistent with his own values, and he or she must also be up front about those values. Thom is pretty up front about his values and views (software patents, customer choice, etc.) So what's your problem again? Oh, your fav corporation is being critized? Well, instead of blanket statements, why don't you react to specific claims and disprove what Thom says?

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RE[3]: "This I can agree with."
by t3RRa on Thu 12th May 2011 07:58 in reply to "RE[2]: "This I can agree with.""
t3RRa Member since:
2005-11-22

Do you really think is that good in an article on a tech news site, the writer bashing Apple in Google Android news item for no good reason? You example is invalid since this article is not related to Apple AT ALL.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Do you really think is that good in an article on a tech news site, the writer bashing Apple in Google Android news item for no good reason? You example is invalid since this article is not related to Apple AT ALL.


It IS related, because BOTH companies are doing something similar: playing with the very definitions of open. However, the crazy thing is is that while Google is following licenses to the letter, it is getting bashed for it like crazy - whereas Apple is structurally violating the (L)GPL, and nobody seems to give a shit.

This is very much related. Me thinks you, as an Apple fanatic, simply don't like it that OSNews is one of the few - if not the only - website to point out these structural (L)GPL violations, without coming up with ridiculous rationalisations like Apple spokesperson Gruber is doing - he is saying it's okay for Apple to violate the (L)GPL because Apple isn't as hell-bent on being open as Google is! In other words, as long as you're honest about it, it's okay to be a criminal.

If you can't handle people pointing out the mistakes of your favourite pet company, then you might want to stick to cesspools like Daring Fireball and MacDailyNews.

Edited 2011-05-12 08:05 UTC

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