Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th May 2011 18:59 UTC, submitted by fran
Gnome Something's - once again - brewing within the GNOME project. While a mere suggestion for now, and by no means any form of official policy, influential voices within the GNOME project are arguing that GNOME should become a full-fledged Linux-based operating system, and that the desktop environment should drop support for other operating systems such as Solaris and the BSDs. I have a feeling this isn't going to go down well with many of our readers.
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RE: Interesting.
by kragil on Thu 19th May 2011 20:26 UTC in reply to "Interesting."
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

Yes it is, and people who complain about this are too.

If the BSDs and Solaris would have a lot of upstream developers it wouldn't even come up, but guess what, they don't.

FOSS is a do-ocracy. If nobody does the porting/upstream work smaller projects will fail. That's evolution, baby.

Xorg already did this, and my guess is that Gnome will be next in line. Wayland will be the next dependancy in 2012 or 2013.

Sucks if you like other Unixes besides Linux, but my guess is that most of the people who run something like OpenBSD probably hate the Gnome-Shell anyways.

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RE[2]: Interesting.
by ParadoxUncreated on Thu 19th May 2011 23:57 in reply to "RE: Interesting."
ParadoxUncreated Member since:
2009-12-05

I`m saying this because the linux kernel is reaching a level of quality, that is universal.

You simply can`t solve a problem better. And so it has won the race. And well, I say that also because it is GPL`d.

Why don`t the others come around, and contribute/develop for linux instead ;)

Edited 2011-05-19 23:58 UTC

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RE[3]: Interesting.
by testman on Fri 20th May 2011 00:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting."
testman Member since:
2007-10-15

Why don`t the others come around, and contribute/develop for linux instead

Might as well be asking why Linux developers don't "come around" and get better paid jobs at Microsoft or Apple -- a company that has already passed the finishing-line in the race you describe.


:)

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RE[3]: Interesting.
by 0brad0 on Fri 20th May 2011 01:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting."
0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05

I`m saying this because the linux kernel is reaching a level of quality, that is universal.

You simply can`t solve a problem better. And so it has won the race. And well, I say that also because it is GPL`d.

Why don`t the others come around, and contribute/develop for linux instead ;)


Because it sucks.

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RE[3]: Interesting.
by Morgan on Fri 20th May 2011 14:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

You simply can`t solve a problem better.


Wow. I'm surprised you didn't get flamed for that. Not that I think you intended to start a riot or anything, it's just a very pointed opinion. Saying that here is like walking into a multi-denominational church and screaming that one particular faith is the only way.

I do get what you're saying though; GNU/Linux is riding the high wave of popularity and for good reason. As to whether it's the best way to solve a problem, well that depends entirely on the problem. For example, QNX (pre-buyout) existed because nothing else came close to being able to reliably run mission-critical realtime tasks. I wouldn't in a million years want the Linux kernel at the heart of the computers on space missions, or commercial airliners for that matter. It's way too complex and has too many potential points of failure.

That said, it is quite the versatile tool, able to be molded and shaped to fit a vast amount of unique applications. Like Sun/Oracle is so proud of saying about Java, it powers everything from servers to in-car-infotainment systems to phones to regular old desktop computers. It's becoming the OS of choice for tablet devices (I know, Android isn't *full* Linux but see above about malleability). It seems even Microsoft finally sees it as a true competitor, with the news of an aggressively marketed ARM port of Windows in the wings.

As to the GNOME thing, well I personally think that DE has reached its pinnacle and is on a downward path now. I've always preferred GNOME to KDE for the simplicity and general aesthetics, but lately I find myself drawn to Xfce for Linux installs. I've always liked that project, coming from years of using Fluxbox and Openbox, and lately it seems to have been improving in both features and speed, while GNOME just gets fatter and slower.

And if GNOME does become strictly a GNU/Linux DE? Well I guess that only makes sense, as much as the two have been tied together in the past anyway.

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RE[3]: Interesting.
by snowbender on Fri 20th May 2011 21:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting."
snowbender Member since:
2006-05-04

You simply can`t solve a problem better.


There is always a better way to solve a problem.

Definitely for something as complex as a kernel. Definitely for something as rapidly changing as the hardware our os's run on.

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RE[2]: Interesting.
by openwookie on Fri 20th May 2011 03:23 in reply to "RE: Interesting."
openwookie Member since:
2006-04-25

OpenBSD is being used on the desktop, in corporate settings no less:

http://www.insidesocal.com/click/2011/04/a-company-helps-bring-open...

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