Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th May 2011 18:59 UTC, submitted by fran
Gnome Something's - once again - brewing within the GNOME project. While a mere suggestion for now, and by no means any form of official policy, influential voices within the GNOME project are arguing that GNOME should become a full-fledged Linux-based operating system, and that the desktop environment should drop support for other operating systems such as Solaris and the BSDs. I have a feeling this isn't going to go down well with many of our readers.
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RE: Pretty small thoughts
by cheemosabe on Thu 19th May 2011 20:41 UTC in reply to "Pretty small thoughts"
cheemosabe
Member since:
2009-11-29

Being nice to everybody is nice, but this isn't about being nice.

If someone gives you something valuable and you give him 1000 bucks for it, then your brother comes and gives you something not as good, although he did his best in providing you with something good, you want to give him 1000 bucks too, which would be nice, but what if you don't have that money?

And, most importantly, you can help your brother make something better himself, helping him win his own money instead of doing it for him yourself.

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RE[2]: Pretty small thoughts
by acobar on Thu 19th May 2011 21:37 in reply to "RE: Pretty small thoughts"
acobar Member since:
2005-11-15

Well, I guess I should be a bit clearer. I am not asking anyone to not incorporate the full benefits of system services they want. I am begging them to cooperate on outlining an isolation abstraction layer, publish it on freedesktop.org and go live their lives.

If the specific thing blocks one module to be build, no problem, do not build it. If it is important enough to bother the right guys, for sure, they will plug the hole.

But no, they just do not want to bother themselves and lose their precious time on cooperation, and the whole notification area is a prime example of that.

And to all people that complain about abstraction layers, more often then not, they expose the shortcomings of their own interfaces, and can be engineered to have negligible impact on performance and memory usage. But, oh well, lets rewrite the whole stack again! It is just so fun to do that!

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RE[3]: Pretty small thoughts
by twitterfire on Fri 20th May 2011 20:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Pretty small thoughts"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

Well, I guess I should be a bit clearer. I am not asking anyone to not incorporate the full benefits of system services they want. I am begging them to cooperate on outlining an isolation abstraction layer, publish it on freedesktop.org and go live their lives.


Yup. The only problem is that by doing that will:

-hinder the project

-be unable to use the latest technologies and advancements

-be unable to highly integrate with the rest of the os

If some other guys want the software, they can:

a) port it themselves if they can
b)hire someone to do the work

They will have to either maintain a separate source tree either port systemd because patches won't make upstream.

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