Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th May 2011 18:59 UTC, submitted by fran
Gnome Something's - once again - brewing within the GNOME project. While a mere suggestion for now, and by no means any form of official policy, influential voices within the GNOME project are arguing that GNOME should become a full-fledged Linux-based operating system, and that the desktop environment should drop support for other operating systems such as Solaris and the BSDs. I have a feeling this isn't going to go down well with many of our readers.
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RE[2]: Sad but inevitable
by gilboa on Fri 20th May 2011 22:05 UTC in reply to "RE: Sad but inevitable"
gilboa
Member since:
2005-07-06

All nice and dandy... but I fail to see you point:

Having a comparable or even better technical solution is -irrelevant- unless someone from the BSD camp stands up and implements the required support with GNOME (or any other DE for that matter).

This is FOSS 101 - not rocket science: Unless you're willing to scratch your own itch, no-one will be doing it for you...

- Gilboa

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RE[3]: Sad but inevitable
by pfgbsd on Fri 20th May 2011 22:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Sad but inevitable"
pfgbsd Member since:
2011-03-12

Heh... Do you really expect a decently designed OS to adopt a gross hack like systemd just to run GNOME?

NO WAY!! Keep it linux-only!

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RE[4]: Sad but inevitable
by gilboa on Fri 20th May 2011 22:15 in reply to "RE[3]: Sad but inevitable"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

I assume that you have come to this conclusion following your vast experience in using systemd under the yet to be released Fedora 15 for... 2 days?

*Sigh*

- Gilboa

Edited 2011-05-20 22:31 UTC

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RE[4]: Sad but inevitable
by toast88 on Sat 21st May 2011 10:41 in reply to "RE[3]: Sad but inevitable"
toast88 Member since:
2009-09-23

Heh... Do you really expect a decently designed OS to adopt a gross hack like systemd just to run GNOME?


You clearly have no idea what systemd is all about. It's not just a neat replacement for init like upstart but a serious attempt to massively parallelize daemon startup, introduce a nanny for the daemons, reduce the clutter from all the bash scripts in /etc/init.d and much more.

systemd is heavily inspired by Apple's launchd which has replaced everything from rc.d to cron.d in MacOS since 10.4.

Bringing something like launchd to Linux is just awesome and helps to dramatically reduce boot times, increase reliability of daemons and reduce the effort to maintaining init.

systemd is so much better and cleaner than sysvinit and upstart and I am already using it on some of my Debian systems.

With FreeBSD still being stuck to sysinstall as their installers or CVS as their primary revision control system, I am not surprised that they are so fiercely fighting any progress.

I don't have any problems with the BSD people. But people from Linux community have their right to choose a certain direction development for their software and BSD people shouldn't be bitching about that, sorry.

Adrian

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