Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th May 2011 18:59 UTC, submitted by fran
Something's - once again - brewing within the GNOME project. While a mere suggestion for now, and by no means any form of official policy, influential voices within the GNOME project are arguing that GNOME should become a full-fledged Linux-based operating system, and that the desktop environment should drop support for other operating systems such as Solaris and the BSDs. I have a feeling this isn't going to go down well with many of our readers.
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RE[6]: Sad but inevitable
by toast88 on Sat 21st May 2011 11:10
in reply to "RE[5]: Sad but inevitable"
Member since:2009-09-23
"With FreeBSD still being stuck to sysinstall as their installers
You probably havent heard about sysinstall replacement called bsdinstall, here have a read:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall
"
No, I haven't. But from the link you provided it seems that bsdinstall is just supposed to be an intermediate solution. It's surely an improvement, but does it compare with the modern installers like debian-installer or anaconda provided on Linux?
Is it already used by default when I download and install a current stable release of FreeBSD? We're not talking about stuff which is still in the making but actually being used
. "CVS as their primary revision control system, I am not surprised that they are so fiercely fighting any progress.
FreeBSD uses SVN for development since 2008. "
Which isn't really an improvement over CVS for a large scale project like FreeBSD. I think most developers agree, that for really large projects which have many branches in the sources and lots of developers, a distributed RCS like git is a much better choice.
Adrian
RE[7]: Sad but inevitable
by vermaden on Sat 21st May 2011 12:39
in reply to "RE[6]: Sad but inevitable"
Member since:2006-11-18
No, I haven't. But from the link you provided it seems that bsdinstall is just supposed to be an intermediate solution. It's surely an improvement, but does it compare with the modern installers like debian-installer or anaconda provided on Linux?
Yes, its temporary sollution, there is work in progres to provide 'fully capable' installer.
Talking 'modern installer' I assume that You want a graphical (QT/GTK) installer that a definite newbie will be able to click-out the install process, there is also such installer for FreeBSD, the PC-BSD installer (http://pcbsd.org) written in QT adn it alows You to install PC-BSD and if You do not need all preconfigured stuff, it also allows You to install PLAIN FREEBSD version.
The PC-BSD installer uses pc-sysinstall as a backend (which is set of created POSIX sh(1) shell scripts) and frontend is in QT, the 'complete' goal of text/curses based FreeBSD installer is to use that backend for the installer.
Is it already used by default when I download and install a current stable release of FreeBSD? We're not talking about stuff which is still in the making but actually being used .
. Its already in snapshot builds for the 9-CURRENT FreeBSD, the installer is planend for 9.0-RELEASE which will happen somewhere between 2011/06 and 2011/09 probably.
Which isn't really an improvement over CVS for a large scale project like FreeBSD. I think most developers agree, that for really large projects which have many branches in the sources and lots of developers, a distributed RCS like git is a much better choice.
I would like to comment on that, but I am not a developer, the 'biggest' things that I write are mostly shell scripts or wrappers so I do not have ANY experience with any large scale code repository.
RE[7]: Sad but inevitable
by pfgbsd on Sat 21st May 2011 17:50
in reply to "RE[6]: Sad but inevitable"
Member since:2011-03-12
No, I haven't. But from the link you provided it seems that bsdinstall is just supposed to be an intermediate solution. It's surely an improvement, but does it compare with the modern installers like debian-installer or anaconda provided on Linux?
As someone noted, PC-BSD has a very cool installer but bsdinstall has other objectives: we still want to have something that can be installed using a serial console and that will work on non PC-platforms.
"
FreeBSD uses SVN for development since 2008.
FreeBSD uses SVN for development since 2008.
Which isn't really an improvement over CVS for a large scale project like FreeBSD. I think most developers agree, that for really large projects which have many branches in the sources and lots of developers, a distributed RCS like git is a much better choice.
" [/q]
Well it's a matter of developer's choice: FreeBSD is developed in a more centralized manner than other projects, and even before SVN, FreeBSD was using a combination of CVS and perforce. I do recall linux didn't have any RCS for many years: that was a lesson they learned from the BSDs (and indirectly from SCO).
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 22:23 UTC
"Sony gave the PS4 50% more raw shader performance, plain and simple (768 SPs @ 800MHz vs. 1152 SPs & 800MHz). Unlike last generation, you don't need to be some sort of Jedi to extract the PS4's potential here. The Xbox One and PS4 architectures are quite similar, Sony just has more hardware under the hood. Weâll have to wait and see how this hardware delta gets exposed in games over time, but the gap is definitely there. The funny thing about game consoles is that itâs usually the lowest common denominator that determines the bulk of the experience across all platforms. On the plus side, the Xbox One should enjoy better power/thermal characteristics compared to the PlayStation 4. Even compared to the Xbox 360 we should see improvement in many use cases thanks to modern power management techniques." AnandTech does its usual in-depth thing.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 13:38 UTC
"The Verge has learned that HTC's Chief Product Officer, Kouji Kodera, left the company last week. Kodera was responsible for HTC's overall product strategy, which makes the departure especially notable on the heels of the global launch of the make-or-break One. It's not just Kodera. In the past three-odd months, HTC has lost a number of employees in rapid succession." I really hope HTC pulls it together.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/22/13 13:30 UTC, submitted by JRepin
"It is with huge pleasure that the Debian GNU/Hurd team announces the release of Debian GNU/Hurd 2013. This is a snapshot of Debian 'sid' at the time of the Debian 'wheezy' release (May 2013), so it is mostly based on the same sources. It is not an official Debian release, but it is an official Debian GNU/Hurd port release." Important note: 75% of Debian packages are supported bu Debian GNU/Hurd. Impressive.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 22:06 UTC
"The first killer app was VisiCalc. This early spreadsheet turned the Apple II from a hobbyist toy to a business computer. VisiCalc came with room for improvement, though. In addition, a new architecture and operating system, the Intel-based IBM PC and MS-DOS, also needed a spreadsheet to be taken seriously. That spreadsheet, released in early 1983, would be Lotus 1-2-3, and it would change the world. It became the PC's killer app, and the world would never be the same. On May 14, IBM quietly announced the end of the road for 1-2-3, along with Lotus Organizer and the Lotus SmartSuite office suite. Lotus 1-2-3's day is done." Impressive 30 year run.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 21:45 UTC
"There's a disconnect between how Apple CEO Tim Cook sees his company's tax strategies and how some members of the US Senate view it. That became clearer than ever today after Cook and two other Apple executives testified before Congress, explaining why they're holding most of their international income in Irish subsidiaries like Apple Operations International, which declare no tax residency anywhere in the world. AOI hasn't filed a tax return anywhere in the world for the last five years, yet it earned $30 billion in income from 2009 to 2012, according to a Senate report released yesterday." Just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's just. Apple, Google, Microsoft, and many more - these companies might not be breaking any laws, but it's obvious to anyone that what they are doing is scummy.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 15:53 UTC
The new WebKit Opera for Android has been released. "Opera 14 for Android is built on top of Chromium 26, with a total overhaul of the UI in native code, making it fit well with the latest Android design guidelines. Go get the build from Google Play or point your browser to m.opera.com, and give it a spin!"
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/20/13 22:43 UTC
The Verge pointed me to a blog post by Leap Motion - which reveals how their Kinect-like motion control works with Windows 8. "From the second you plug in your Leap Motion Controller, you'll be able to browse the web and interact with your computer just by moving your hands and fingers in the air. With Leap Motion technology and Windows, you can do everything that's possible with multi-touch inputs - without actually touching anything. This also means that existing applications in Windows 7 and 8 will respond to your natural hand and finger movements. Soon, we'll show you how Leap Motion will work with Mac OS X." Quite cool.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/20/13 21:50 UTC
PocketNow interviews Marc Dillon, and there's an interesting note about why Jolla is keeping the display properties under wraps: "We're leaving some of those details out because we do understand that there are a lot of really big players in the market and they tend to take certain components in the market and dominate them. We created the ability to actually be able to run Sailfish on multiple hardware displays and be able to swap components, so this is part of the demand and supply planning phase. We are committed to this industrial design which is a 4.5-inch display, an 8 megapixel camera on the back and a front-facing camera at the front, and the exact specs of the display we'll provide when we're close to delivery." Something you rarely hear anything about.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/19/13 23:15 UTC
"This is my NeXTstation Turbo Color booting the Mac System 7.1 Operating System using a hardware add-on called 'Daydream'. The Daydream has a Mac ROM and a few custom ICs in it and hooked up to the NeXTs DSP port. Turns your NeXT into a full fledged 68k powered Mac." So cool.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/19/13 23:11 UTC, submitted by Drumhellar
"The NetBSD Project is pleased to announce NetBSD 6.1, the first feature update of the NetBSD 6 release branch. It represents a selected subset of fixes deemed important for security or stability reasons, as well as new features and enhancements. Please note that all fixes in the prior security/bugfix updates (NetBSD 6.0.1 and 6.0.2) are also in 6.1."More News »
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You probably havent heard about sysinstall replacement called bsdinstall, here have a read:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/BSDInstall
FreeBSD uses SVN for development since 2008.