Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th May 2011 20:37 UTC
Apple I have personally tried to pretty much let the whole MAC Defender trojan thing pass by, since we're not a security website. However, we have an interesting turn of events this week. An article over at Ars Technica quotes several anonymous Apple Store employees as saying that the infection rate of Macs brought into the Apple store has gone up considerably. More interestingly though, Apple's official policy states that Apple Store employees are not allowed to talk about infections to anyone - they're not even allowed to inform Mac owners if they find the infection without the customer's knowledge. Another interesting tidbit: Apple mandates the use of Norton Antivirus on company Macs, according to one Apple Store genius.
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Apple is not responsible
by ViewRoyal on Sat 21st May 2011 17:42 UTC
ViewRoyal
Member since:
2011-05-21

Mac Defender is NOT a virus (and there never has been even a single Mac OS X virus!). It's a "scareware" scam, in which a naive user blindly uses their own password to purposely install a bad application.

Is Apple responsible if you fall for a scam?

What if a naive user fell for another scam, like giving all their money to a "Nigerian prince"? Would Apple also be responsible because the request came through email on Mac OS X?

The answer of course is "No".

But Windows users (thanks to abysmal reporting by bloggers on the Web) seem to think that Mac Defender is a "virus", and so are comparing the security of Mac OS X to the "Swiss Cheese" non-security of Windows OS.

Let's repeat the fact again, for those Windows users who mistakenly believe that Mac OS X has viruses just like Windows:

During the 10 years that Mac OS X has been in existence, there has NEVER been a virus for the Mac.

Or to put it into numbers:

Windows OS = hundreds of thousands of viruses
Mac OS X = zero (0) viruses

;-)

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RE: Apple is not responsible
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 21st May 2011 18:00 in reply to "Apple is not responsible"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Is Apple responsible if you fall for a scam?


Let's put it this way: if you knew all sorts of details about certain criminals, and you did not give this information to the police, then you're still breaking the law.

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RE: Apple is not responsible
by WereCatf on Sat 21st May 2011 18:35 in reply to "Apple is not responsible"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Is Apple responsible if you fall for a scam?


You're missing the whole point: Apple specifically tells AppleCare NOT to tell customers if their Macs are infected by it. That's not just negligence, that's downright malicious.

No one is saying Apple should be held responsible if people fall for scams. But people ARE saying Apple is responsible if they tell their employees not to inform people of such even if the employees know about it.

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RE: Apple is not responsible
by danbuter on Sat 21st May 2011 20:56 in reply to "Apple is not responsible"
danbuter Member since:
2011-03-17

Mac Defender is NOT a virus (and there never has been even a single Mac OS X virus!). It's a "scareware" scam, in which a naive user blindly uses their own password to purposely install a bad application.


Many Windows viruses are the same thing. Do they not count, either?

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RE: Apple is not responsible
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 23rd May 2011 01:56 in reply to "Apple is not responsible"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Mac Defender is NOT a virus (and there never has been even a single Mac OS X virus!). It's a "scareware" scam, in which a naive user blindly uses their own password to purposely install a bad application.

Is Apple responsible if you fall for a scam?


HasBean, is that you?

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