Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th May 2011 17:02 UTC, submitted by kaiwai
Mac OS X Well, it took them long enough. Apple has finally acknowledged the existence of the MAC Defender trojan, and has offered removal instructions. The company has also promised a security update to Mac OS X that will block MAC Defender and its variants from working. All this information was published in the form of a support document on Apple's website. Update: Well, that was fast. A new variant of the trojan, called Mac Guard, has been discovered. Unlike previous variants, this one does not require users to enter their administrative password.
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RE[2]: :)
by wocowboy on Thu 26th May 2011 10:34 UTC in reply to "RE: :)"
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I would wager that most people would say closing a program and dragging it to the trash, etc, is a FAR FAR FAR less major problem to get rid of than having to erase/reformat/reinstall your whole operating system and all your software, as is the Windows method of Defender removal. Good lord, this isn't anywhere close to being as severe as 99% of the millions of Windows malware and viruses that are in the wild. That's why I made my other statement that got modded down like I expected it to; you people are blowing this "threat" so far out of proportion in an effort to make Mac users think they are now susceptible to all the Windows problems you have had to suffer/deal with, but I don't think this even comes close. I have been a Windows user, I have had to erase/reformat/reinstall dozens of times, so I know the pain and agony of losing EVERYTHING. And so I say again: this is NOWHERE close to that process!

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RE[3]: :)
by Lennie on Thu 26th May 2011 11:21 in reply to "RE[2]: :)"
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Depends most spambots and similair bad traffic don't need any root access, just a way to get started on startup (or login of the user).

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RE[3]: :)
by SteveB on Thu 26th May 2011 11:31 in reply to "RE[2]: :)"
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I would wager that most people would say closing a program and dragging it to the trash, etc, is a FAR FAR FAR less major problem to get rid of than having to erase/reformat/reinstall your whole operating system and all your software, as is the Windows method of Defender removal.
I am mainly a Linux user but Windows is by far not that draconian that you need to reformat whole OS just for a Virus removal.


Good lord, this isn't anywhere close to being as severe as 99% of the millions of Windows malware and viruses that are in the wild.
And what is your point? It's not about quantity.


That's why I made my other statement that got modded down like I expected it to; you people are blowing this "threat" so far out of proportion in an effort to make Mac users think they are now susceptible to all the Windows problems you have had to suffer/deal with, but I don't think this even comes close. I have been a Windows user, I have had to erase/reformat/reinstall dozens of times, so I know the pain and agony of losing EVERYTHING. And so I say again: this is NOWHERE close to that process!
Look. I already wrote you that I am a Linux user and not a Windows nor a Mac user. But I know the others too. The problem with the Mac is that most users using a Mac are brain washed to think that Mac = No malware/virus. Do you understand that? Now combine this with the fact that there exist malware for the Mac. What does that give you? Right. A problem. It is a problem because most user using a Mac have no malware/virus protection on their system. And this is a problem. It's okay that Windows has 1'000'000'000 times more malware and virus. But where are we here? Kindergarten? Does the fact that Windows has a gazillion times more malware/virus on their platform make your Mac any more secure? NO! It does not change any thing.

And don't take this personal. It's not about you and me. No one has anything against you here just because you are using a Mac.

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RE[4]: :)
by WereCatf on Thu 26th May 2011 11:57 in reply to "RE[3]: :)"
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No one has anything against you here just because you are using a Mac.


Hey now, it's not polite to lie in public comment areas.

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RE[3]: :)
by pantheraleo on Thu 26th May 2011 13:54 in reply to "RE[2]: :)"
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I would wager that most people would say closing a program and dragging it to the trash, etc, is a FAR FAR FAR less major problem to get rid of than having to erase/reformat/reinstall your whole operating system and all your software, as is the Windows method of Defender removal.


Uh no? Windows virus removal almost never requires an erase / reformt / reinstall. The only time you need to do that is if an attacker has managed to get root / administrator privileges on your system. But that's true of any OS, including OS X. Once you have been rooted, you can't trust any of the software on your system because you have no way of knowing for sure which files the attacker touched. Important system utilities that could detect problems might have been replaced by trojans. And that includes OS X. For example the "ps" command is replaced by one that will not list the rogue processes, the who command is replaced by one that will not show the attacker listed as being logged in, etc.

Edited 2011-05-26 13:57 UTC

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