Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Oct 2005 13:03 UTC
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2005-07-06
You could try reading it and responding to each bit.
That was my point. You say a lot without saying
anything.
That's not being clear. A customer needs to know where it fits in, and a SPARC customer needs to know why they should pick the more expensive option over the other. That's where Sun's dilemma continues to come up, and it's what effectively killed stuff like Cobalt.
Huh? You want Sun to tell customers what to buy? Thats
a strange concept - do you work/deal with IBM a lot?
With Sun you now get a choice. Simple. The roadmaps
for hardware are very clear. Solaris runs on
everything sold with a common desktop, tools and
UI
Even with the limited sales they've had, Sun have admitted that sales of midrange x86 servers have affected the normal spin-off sales that Sun expect at, supposedly, the higher end - storage additions etc. Unless Sun address that in their business set up they are never going to be supportive of x86 in their product lines.
Can you reference please where Sun have said this. My
understanding is that X86 sales are going well (more
than doubling every quarter) and they are still no.1
in UNIX server shipments and the traditional
workstation market. Sun's revenue problems are caused
by contraction in the high end and less than stellar
storage attach rates. The low and mid range are
selling well. It's also interesting to see if the
high end will be bouyed by the release of IV+ which
has been pending for some time now. Niagara is also
going to shake a few things up (power/performance is
an order of magnitude up on most things)
Have a look at the software you get with, and supported, on an average Linux distribution. Then look at what comes with Solaris.
Thats not elaboration. What specifically are you
talking about.
Apart from selling x86 there have been no changes whatsoever. Sun have kidded themselves that they have changed whilst doing all the same things.
Really? JES, grids, Opensolaris - these aren't changes?
One man's facts are another's general statements, and it's doubtful whether many people round here would see anything as a fact. However, from the links provided around here, including those from others, and Sun's bottom-line results it is reasonable to extrapolate from them what has actually happened. Mind you, many people simply don't understand the concept of extrapolating useful information from data and evidence provided.
Theres extrapolation then there is conjecture and FUD.
Please post you analysis of the facts and evidence
which you allude to rather than just your
extrapolated conclusions.
btw, your not David are you?