Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 29th May 2011 21:29 UTC, submitted by teigetje
Microsoft It turns out that a lot of people haven't been paying attention. Over the weekend, a story about how Microsoft is earning more from HTC's Android devices than from its own Windows Phone 7 sales spread all across the web, with surprised reactions everywhere. Anyone who has been paying attention to Microsoft's recent patent trolling regarding Android could've seen this coming.
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ephracis
Member since:
2007-09-23

Granted that Win Server isn't well suited for a web-, dns-, ftp-, etc server but when it comes to having a domain with shared resources such as printers and drives, managing user accounts, deploying software and restricting access to certain features in the workstation OS... Well then Active Directory along with stuff such as GPO is actually very efficient.

I have tried to find a good replacement for Active Directory on RedHat but I haven't found anything that is as good. To me the Linux alternatives feels a lot like NDS back in the days.

Then, you are talking about startups and they may not be the kind of businesses that needs to have a domain. But of all the larger places I've been to here in Sweden there's always been Windows Server with Active Directory and Exchange, while Linux and BSD is common on the more "hardcore" type of servers.

Just my experience...

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bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

You've made the guy's point, your requirement is an MS stack, an ms server to manage ms clients... For anything else, windows server is a very poor choice. Even if you have a mixed client environment the ms server option is very poor.

And don't forget the security weaknesses of an ms network, attacks like hash spraying and token stealing combined with the flaws of wsus mean that its extremely difficult to keep such a network secure...

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ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

Yes, well my point was that at least here in Sweden Microsoft is pretty big (all workstations using Windows, everyone using Office and Outlook) so Active Directory and Windows Server fits pretty nicely into the picture.

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turrini Member since:
2006-10-31

Hmm... Here we use CUPS for sharing 627 printers, SAMBA/NFS(plus SSHFS for remote places) for file sharing and OpenLDAP+Kerberos for authentication. We use Cfengine too for managing configurations.

Our company has 3 thousand workstations, 92% runs Linux.

So, M$ not big deal and not really necessary here.

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ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

Yeah, I am not denying that it is impossible to do without Windows. Just saying that it is very common. Besides, it makes it easier to become an IT-admin (with all the pros and cons that comes with that, of course).

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imtiaz Member since:
2005-07-06

May we know which company it is and which Linux OS is used on workstations ? Just out of curiosity.
Hope that does not bring out the NDA. ;)

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ronaldst Member since:
2005-06-29

Granted that Win Server isn't well suited for a web-, dns-, ftp-, etc server...

What? You must be still using old 3.1 Windows NT servers. Because you seem not aware of new options like Windows Azure and Windows Azure Appliance.

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ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

Nice jump there from 3.11 to Azure. Just 17 years between releases.

However, I have not used Azure so I don't know anything about using and deploying it. However, I haven't seen it being used in production either.

Funny that so far I've gotten responses saying that I am wrong because Linux is better than I give it credit for, and I've gotten responses saying that Windows is better than I give it credit for. Very interesting. Guess I should praise more. ;)

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

And other cloud providers beat the crap out of Azure. And if you're not building something on MS based tech, you are better off with any other cloud.

windows Server is a good product, Azure is a good product/service. However, Linux, *BSD, AIX and Solaris are great server products. A number of cloud providers and virtual datacenter landlords have great offerings.
You can't beat great with good.

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