Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 4th Jun 2011 19:52 UTC
Internet & Networking Since it's weekend, let's start with some good news we can all be happy about. The United Nations has declared internet access a human right, and has called upon all nations to not instate any laws that have the power to cut people off the internet, with France and the UK being singled out because they passed three strikes laws.
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France law
by Alfman on Sun 5th Jun 2011 03:35 UTC
Alfman
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2011-01-28

I cannot understand these two statements at the same time:

"States have also taken measures to cut off access to the Internet entirely...such as the so-called 'three-strikes-law' in France"

"The constitutional council of France effectively declared Internet access a fundamental right in 2009"

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RE: France law
by Yamin on Sun 5th Jun 2011 05:50 in reply to "France law"
Yamin Member since:
2006-01-10

Why?

Article 3: "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person."

Great right... but if you break the law by murdering someone, your right to liberty is taken away and you are sent to jail.

Similarly, if you break the P2P law, you can have your internet right taken away.

How hard is that to reconcile?

Edited 2011-06-05 05:50 UTC

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RE[2]: France law
by Alfman on Sun 5th Jun 2011 06:41 in reply to "RE: France law"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

"How hard is that to reconcile?"

Both examples seem irreconcilable.

One can't go around making exceptions to fundamental rights and continue stating that those rights are fundamental.

The contradiction is hypocrisy, in my opinion.

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RE[2]: France law
by Neolander on Sun 5th Jun 2011 07:52 in reply to "RE: France law"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Great right... but if you break the law by murdering someone, your right to liberty is taken away and you are sent to jail.

This contradiction can by avoided by stating that the right to life has a greater value than the right to liberty. Keeping a criminal unpunished puts the life of people in danger, maybe that's not worth the liberty of the criminal.

Similarly, if you break the P2P law, you can have your internet right taken away.

This, on the other hand, is pure hypocrisy, doing so basically says that the media industry's pleasure is worth more than the people's freedom of speech.

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