Linked by David Adams on Tue 7th Jun 2011 17:54 UTC
Editorial Bob Cringeley makes a bold statement in a blog post responding to Apple's iCloud announcement: "Jobs is going to sacrifice the Macintosh in order to kill Windows." He says, "The incumbent platform today is Windows because it is in Windows machines that nearly all of our data and our ability to use that data have been trapped. But the Apple announcement changes all that. Suddenly the competition isn't about platforms at all, but about data, with that data being crunched on a variety of platforms through the use of cheap downloaded apps."
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RE[2]: Comment by ssokolow
by daedalus on Wed 8th Jun 2011 12:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by ssokolow"
daedalus
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2011-01-14

I've had Linux break. I've had Windows break. I've had MacOS break. None are particularly easy to "fix" when something bad goes wrong, unless you know the system much better than the average Joe. I don't think Linux is easier to fix, when with a Mac you can just install the system again in a new folder. You can do the same with Windows but your applications won't work any more. I've never even attempted it with Linux, but I suspect I would be a mess. In reality, for the average Joe, a format and reinstall is the easiest "fix" for serious problems, regardless of OS.

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RE[3]: Comment by ssokolow
by pantheraleo on Wed 8th Jun 2011 13:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ssokolow"
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2007-03-07

I've had Linux break. I've had Windows break. I've had MacOS break.


I've had MacOS break as well. One morning, it simply refused to boot, and kept giving me a strange hard disk error. I called AppleCare and told them the error it was giving me, and they were worse than useless. They told me to take to Apple store and get the hard disk replaced because it was dead, even though I knew it was not because Apple's hardware diagnostics said there was nothing wrong with it, and I could access the hard disk just fine by mounting it from a Linux boot disk with HFS+ support.

I finally gave up on trying to figure out how to fix it after I could find no info on Google either about what the error meant or how to fix it, backed up my files, wiped the disk, and reinstalled OS X. That resolved the problem and it hasn't had any disk problems since.

So bottom line, it was definitely an OS X issue that not even Apple itself knew how to resolve.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Eh AppleCare != Apple. I'm certain someone at Apple Inc knew how to fix it, but getting that information out of them can be tough, AppleCare or not.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah, I'm not the average Joe. I was talking from my perspective as well as the perspective of anyone who wants me to fix my computer ;)

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RE[3]: Comment by ssokolow
by pantheraleo on Wed 8th Jun 2011 15:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by ssokolow"
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

when with a Mac you can just install the system again in a new folder. You can do the same with Windows but your applications won't work any more.



To be fair, that doesn't always work with Mac anymore either. A lot of Mac applications no longer use the sample "drag and drop" approach like they used to. Some of them have actual installers these days. And some of them don't place all of their stuff neatly into a single app bundle anymore than can just be dragged anywhere.

Which of course, brings up a problem with Mac that Apple hasn't addressed yet. Uninstalling applications that were installed with an installer can be problematic. In many cases, you can't simply drag them to the trash to get rid of them. They will still leave crap laying around in the Library folder and such.

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