Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jun 2011 18:51 UTC
Internet & Networking It's official now. The signs had been there for a while now. While the west bangs on about the importance of freedom and democracy, they don't actually want anyone to have too much of it. The US, France, and the UK have jointly pretty much declared war on freedom on the web.
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RE: Goofy duffas.
by marblesbot on Fri 10th Jun 2011 00:25 UTC in reply to "Goofy duffas."
marblesbot
Member since:
2009-12-25

There's already a law banning child pornography, idiot! If you can't keep the internet safe for yourself, you don't deserve access. Do you let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch? No, you separate the bad apple and keep the rest of the bunch fresh. Why don't we ban driving since people wreck their cars? How about we ban stairs because somebody could fall! As a matter of fact, let's make a law that says nobody can get out of bed because something they don't like might happen. Of course, you will eventually die in bed. And I'd masturbate until I die anyway!

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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by Laurence on Fri 10th Jun 2011 11:38 in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

And I'd masturbate until I die anyway!

+1 (both for lulz and because I probably would too)

You've hit the nail on the head though - the greatest threat to ourselves is ourselves. Short of locking everyone in a padded cell, the is no definitive point where "protecting us" and "censoring us" meet.

People get so hysterical about what people could do online, that they forget that punishment is supposed to be reactionary (ie you commit a crime, you get punished) not precautionary (ie everyone gets punished in case someone decides to commit a crime)

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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by jefro on Fri 10th Jun 2011 19:41 in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
jefro Member since:
2007-04-13

So you are saying because there a law against murder, I should then be allowed to have a grenade or missile?

What exactly is wrong with setting some limits on the web? Why can't parents get a service that is free of stolen movies and porn? It is not about sex at all. I am fine with adult product offered only to adults. I am a big fan of sex.

I am totally for controls that protect copyrighted works. Sure, you guys can't believe it is theft.

Ten's of thousands of people get stolen from each day on the web. What is wrong with blocking crooks?

Various places forbid gambling. What is so wrong with a law the forces the local's to actually travel outside their home to loose money?

Your attitudes show the childish belief of many of the foolish citizens today.

Sad part is, if it were you directly being stolen from or taken advantage of you would be the first to scream to the government.

Too bad for the folks that disagree with me. You will find that the web will be limited. You will get around some of the controls, you may even be held liable for your actions in this world or the next. I will let my stance hold. I believe in a civilized world that is fair to all. Not just fair to some. It is fair to have controls. While we can't stop murders we can impose limits to many things We do that by laws.

I'd say most of you need to learn how to be an adult not a child or parent. Be a good citizen. Take all your stolen movies and music and delete them.

Take your dirty movies that may have been forced on to young girls and delete them.

Mean ain't I?

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RE[3]: Goofy duffas.
by bugjacobs on Fri 10th Jun 2011 22:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Goofy duffas."
bugjacobs Member since:
2009-01-03

Point is this is not a case of taking away the bad stuff, its about censoring out political and religious opinions THEY dont like, such as "Presents of God Ministries."

Who are THEY ? Your guess ..

My guess, THEY are located in Rome and wear funny hats and Crimson clothes ..

What do they say ? All roads lead to Rome ?

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

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I'd say most of you need to learn how to be an adult not a child or parent. Be a good citizen. Take all your stolen movies and music and delete them.
"

uh.. what? being an adult is somehow more responsible than having fully dependent offspring to care for? Wow.. your dealer gets you the good stuff huh..


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Take your dirty movies that may have been forced on to young girls and delete them.
"

And what of the films made by consenting adults? Are those one's ok to keep provided they are kept from being viewed by those under age of consent? Or are we just going to take a puritan approach and all plug our ears and sing "lalalalala" really loud while claiming that the species only procreates through immaculate conception.


Look, no one is promoting child abuse or harm to others. They are saying that there are existing laws and extensive powers granted to the police who enforce those laws. Two nations cooperating to take down a criminal organization that crosses borders does far more good than either nation arbitrarily censoring local traffic. And, I mean real criminals not citizens legally using copyright's fair-use clause.

And, if you don't think that a little censorship now for the trendy "war-on" of the day won't evolve into censorship of anything that threatens the government status quo to the determent of the citizens it claims to represent; consider moving to China, the local laws are probably more in-line with your delusions.

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