Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jun 2011 18:51 UTC
Internet & Networking It's official now. The signs had been there for a while now. While the west bangs on about the importance of freedom and democracy, they don't actually want anyone to have too much of it. The US, France, and the UK have jointly pretty much declared war on freedom on the web.
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RE[2]: @Thom - Core freedom???
by Neolander on Fri 10th Jun 2011 11:38 UTC in reply to "RE: @Thom - Core freedom???"
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

Big +1 to this. Marriage is for putting an administrative, official status, on a couple. Procreation is only about biology. I couldn't care less if people of the same sex marry as long as I've still got the right to marry people of the opposite sex on my side, in fact I think such an equal footing would be much more healthy than the current situation.

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allanregistos Member since:
2011-02-10

Big +1 to this. Marriage is for putting an administrative, official status, on a couple. Procreation is only about biology. I couldn't care less if people of the same sex marry as long as I've still got the right to marry people of the opposite sex on my side, in fact I think such an equal footing would be much more healthy than the current situation.

@Neolander. Thanks, but you did not address the argument=(same sex marriage is not a "core" basic human right), you only justify yourself if you ever come in that situation, for justifying oneself doesn't change any facts.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Perhaps the basic human right of freedom to love whom one loves without prosecution by the state or citizens uninvolved in the relationship? Specific to your question though; freedom from discrimination.

Should one be discriminated against because they happen to prefer the same gender at age of maturity rather than adopting the societal bias towards preference for the opposite gender? Should a couple be discriminated against having the state recognized benefits and obligations of a marriage contract withheld because they happen to be of the same gender? Alice and Bob are recognized as legally bound, are raising two kids and among other things, are granted a tax break and child related bursaries. Why should Bob and Bruce who happen to be great care givers, be barred from being legally recognized as husband and husband, excluded from tax breaks and bursaries and ridiculed for raising two healthy children?

(Please don't tell me you believe ignorant claims that a same sex couple is somehow incapable of raising healthy heterosexual children.)


Or people who talk about it like it's a social issue. Like when you see someone stand up on a talk show and says, "how do I explain to my child that two men are getting married?" I don't know, it's your shitty kid, you fucking tell 'em! Why is that anyone else's problem? Two guys are in love but they can't get married because you don't want to talk to your ugly child for fucking five minutes?!

-Louis C.K.

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