Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 9th Jun 2011 18:51 UTC
Internet & Networking It's official now. The signs had been there for a while now. While the west bangs on about the importance of freedom and democracy, they don't actually want anyone to have too much of it. The US, France, and the UK have jointly pretty much declared war on freedom on the web.
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RE[2]: Goofy duffas.
by pantheraleo on Fri 10th Jun 2011 13:39 UTC in reply to "RE: Goofy duffas."
pantheraleo
Member since:
2007-03-07

Uhmm..are you really that dense or are you trolling?
If that's really how you feel maybe you should move to North Korea, there the government make sure you're not exposed to "indecent and corrupting" material.


So you are arguing that child pornography is OK then? Because given the post your responded to, it certainly sounds like that's the argument you are trying to make. If you honestly think that child porn is OK, I hope they take you away and lock you up.

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RE[3]: Goofy duffas.
by Soulbender on Fri 10th Jun 2011 15:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Goofy duffas."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

So you are arguing that child pornography is OK then?


Right, because if you don't agree with incredible draconian arguments parroted about in the name of "protecting the children" you're a pederast. Right.

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RE[4]: Goofy duffas.
by pantheraleo on Fri 10th Jun 2011 15:13 in reply to "RE[3]: Goofy duffas."
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

Right, because if you don't agree with incredible draconian arguments parroted about in the name of "protecting the children" you're a pederast. Right.


Interesting that you didn't actually address the question. I asked you if you were arguing that child pornography is OK, and you skirted around the question without actually answering it. It was a Yes or No question. You didn't give a clear answer.

Can I assume your unwillingness to answer the question directly means that you do think child porn is OK? And that's why you are unwilling to give a simple yes or no answer?

Edited 2011-06-10 15:14 UTC

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RE[3]: Goofy duffas.
by jabjoe on Fri 10th Jun 2011 15:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Goofy duffas."
jabjoe Member since:
2009-05-06

You must be trolling. Nobody is arguing that child pornography is ok. But they are saying that it doesn't justify all actions. "Think of the children" or "to fight the terrorists" are used to justify taking freedoms away from all of us. How far towards a police state do you go in the name of these causes? Maybe, when everything is completely locked down you could fight the terrorists and child pornographers better. But those apparatus of state are near impossible to avoid being abused, and oh how they can/will/are be abused. Of course, none of this stuff will keep working. It would be a constant arms race with the state trying to forever lock things down as new ways pop up. It's a fool's folly with very dark political undertones. You want to force as little as possible underground (think failed alcohol prohibition experiment in the US). If not, the majority of people could end up aligned with those you are trying to fight. Fighting file sharing is the worse one because you really can't win and you just adding the resources of the massive, massive file sharing group against you. Forcing your file sharing teenagers on to darknets isn't any way of protecting them from the darker corners of the internet. After the Netherlands relatively sane drug policy, taking a relatively sane network policy doesn't surprise me.

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RE[4]: Goofy duffas.
by pantheraleo on Fri 10th Jun 2011 15:56 in reply to "RE[3]: Goofy duffas."
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

You must be trolling.


I'm not trolling. I just don't know why he couldn't give a straight answer to what is a very straight forward question.

Fighting file sharing is the worse one because you really can't win and you just adding the resources of the massive, massive file sharing group against you.


If we allow file sharing of copyrighted material and don't prosecute it at all, it would be disastrous. I'm both a developer, and a published author. And I would simply stop doing both if file sharing were so rampant that I could't make any money doing them anymore. I'd love to do them both for free and simply give away my work. I really would. But unfortunately, those who think all software, music, etc. should be free don't seem to realize that housing and food is not free. If housing and food were free, I'd be more than happy to simply give away all my work. But again, if file sharing of copyrighted works were legal and was not subject to prosecution, pretty soon all the file sharers would find themselves with nothing to share when the game companies and such simply stopped creating new games because it was no longer profitable to do so.

Edited 2011-06-10 15:58 UTC

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