Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 12:20 UTC
Legal This make me a sad little facepalming unicorn. Apple has just slapped the open source home server project Amahi with a cease and desist letter about the project's use of the term 'app store' - stop using the term, or face Cupertino's army of lawyers. Note: Please help me find out what 'Mac App' is, a supposed Apple product from 1985 - the first citation of the term 'app' in the Oxford English Dictionary. Another note: Okay I should've guessed that publications from that time could still correct company's horrid camel case spelling without unleashing the wrath of fanboys - it's MacApp, not Mac App. Gra├žias, guys!
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Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 19:10 UTC
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Okay guys, I need some help from people older than me. I have access to the full Oxford English Dictionary, and the oldest citation in there is from InfoWorld, 1985, 29 July:

"One step in that direction is Apple's recent beta testing of the new programming tools called Mac App."

What is this Mac App? Nor DDG, nor Google, nor Wikipedia have any mention of this. I'm at a total loss here. What is this? I'm sure we have some readers from that era - help me!

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RE: MacApp
by xdev on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 19:22 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
xdev Member since:
2005-11-11

MacApp (properly written in PascalCase without space) was the first object-oriented application framework on personal computers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacApp

Adobe did re-engineer much of it, by the way, when they first ported Photoshop to Windows. As did I, when I had to lift a large customer project from classic Macs to Carbon on Intel. We figured out it was cheaper to completely re-do MacApp 3.1 in a cleanroom procedure than to touch the huge and messy application code base in any way. I own the rights to that port, but didn't release any of it (yet) to not upset Apple's lawyers.

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RE[2]: MacApp
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 19:24 in reply to "RE: MacApp"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

DUH I could've known the actual product name's camel case would be properly corrected as Mac App in a publication at that time.

Thanks!

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by tupp on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 20:37 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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2006-11-12

Here is page 112, from Computerworld Sep 13, 1982: http://books.google.com/books?id=69kEbmHHmggC&pg=RA1-PA112&dq=apps&...

If you look carefully, you will see three job listings with the word "apps" highlighted in yellow. One is in the "SYS MANAGER" listing for Hartford. Another is in the "IMS PROG LEADER" listing for Boston. The third one is in the "BURROUGHS 6800 P/A" listing for Providence.

In September of 1982, the term "apps" was widely used to describe computer applications, with no reference to Apple computer.

Edited 2011-06-22 20:39 UTC

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Wow that's fascinating. Thanks!

And yes, I'm thinking about writing an article about the history of the word 'app'. Just gathering some data. whatever you find, feel free to post it here or mail me at thomholwerda@osnews.com

Edited 2011-06-22 20:39 UTC

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by malxau on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 21:03 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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2005-12-04

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacApp

(Edit: looks like this was already answered many times...my fault for not switching to whole thread view. Sorry for the spam. Would delete if I could.)

Edited 2011-06-22 21:05 UTC

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by KirkMcPike on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 21:46 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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2011-06-22

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacApp

"MacApp was Apple Computer's primary object oriented application framework for the Mac OS for much of the 1990s. First released in 1985, it is arguably the first such system to be widely used, notably on a microcomputer platform. Microsoft's MFC and Borland's OWL were both based directly on MacApp concepts."

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by brandnew on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 22:33 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by brandnew on Wed 22nd Jun 2011 22:34 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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2011-06-22

30 seconds of Googling finds http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MacApp, as well as an article in InfoWorld (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wFAEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA59&lpg=PA59&dq...).

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by cavewoman on Thu 23rd Jun 2011 01:04 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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2009-10-27

In fact it has to be spelled MacApp (without the space)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacApp

If you search "Inside Macintosh" + MacApp you will probably find some old pages talking about it.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by old_git on Thu 23rd Jun 2011 02:01 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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2011-06-23

Seems to be an application development framework
http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=...
This article examines one specific application framework for the Macintosh, MacApp--The Expandable Macintosh Application from Apple. The average end user does not generally use or even know about application frameworks. They are tools for developers who design the software for end users. In theory, and application framework can be developed for any personal computer. However, they are especially useful on those with a well-defined user-interface specification.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by brianpward on Thu 23rd Jun 2011 02:02 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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2011-06-23

Look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacApp - MacApp was Apple Computer's primary object oriented application framework for the Mac OS for much of the 1990s. Hope this helps...

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by ron.bannon on Thu 23rd Jun 2011 02:44 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by kovacm on Thu 23rd Jun 2011 07:26 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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2010-12-16

Not sure for Mac App but on Atari ST from 1985 executable files had .prg (program) or .app (application) extension...

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InfoWorld from 1985: http://books.google.com/books?id=LjwEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT88&lpg=PT88&dq=o...

search for "Mac app"

Edited 2011-06-23 07:33 UTC

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by SK8T on Thu 23rd Jun 2011 08:49 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
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2006-06-01

you're sure you don't mean this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacApp

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