Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 25th Jun 2011 18:15 UTC
Opera Software Jon S. von Tetzchner has been with Opera for a long time - in fact, he co-founded the browser maker back in 1995, and led the company to great success; the desktop version may play a niche role, the various mobile versions surely do not. Today though, he has announced he will be leaving the company due to differences with the board and management.
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RE[3]: Comment by RichterKuato
by vodoomoth on Mon 27th Jun 2011 16:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by RichterKuato"
vodoomoth
Member since:
2010-03-30

Yes, maybe I misunderstood you.

Also, I doubt anything Opera does would have a much of an effect on the Web considering their small market share.

Then, you would be dismissing the fact that Opera introduced several things that are now commonplace in most (if not all) browsers: tabbed browsing, what FF calls "magic bar" (I mean searching from the address field), speed dial, pop-up blocking. Even their competitors acknowledge them as far as innovation goes. Just these examples can drastically change how people's browsing experience. Not having them would change mine, for worse, that's for sure.

Movers don't need to be big, trend-setters aren't necessarily the most popular ones, no need for a big mouth to be persuasive, and last, innovation doesn't solely go hand in hand with market share.

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RE[4]: Comment by RichterKuato
by Erunno on Mon 27th Jun 2011 17:24 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by RichterKuato"
Erunno Member since:
2007-06-22

Yes, maybe I misunderstood you.
what FF calls "magic bar" (I mean searching from the address field)


It's called "AwesomeBar" and it works far better than the equivalent in Opera due to having a prediction component and having nifty little features like tag support and switch-to-tab among others. It also works slightly different by not having a full-text index to dig through (which I would welcome for a future Firefox version).

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vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

Yes, "AwesomeBar"! My bad. Thanks for correcting my mistake.

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RichterKuato Member since:
2010-05-14

We're talking about it's influence on the Web not Web Browsers. How many web developers even pay attention to Opera?

Also, it's debatable just how much browsers copy off of Opera. For instance I believe Mozilla's tabs were actually a port of NetCaptor, which actually was the first browser to have tabs.

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PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

We're talking about it's influence on the Web not Web Browsers. How many web developers even pay attention to Opera?

Let's see... HTML5 started out at Opera. The father of CSS works at Opera. And so on.

Yes, Opera's influence on the web has indeed been massive. Everyone is talking about HTML5 these days. That they may not be aware that HTML5 started out at Opera (and then Mozilla joined shortly after) is irrelevant.

Also, it's debatable just how much browsers copy off of Opera. For instance I believe Mozilla's tabs were actually a port of NetCaptor, which actually was the first browser to have tabs.

NetCaptor was not the first browser with tabs. And where did you get the idea that Mozilla copied it?

Why are you so extremely eager to pretend that Opera didn't massively influence both browsers and the web itself? All facts point to the contrary.

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