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Google Well, here we have another attempt. After the failure of the overly complicated Google Wave (remember that? It was supposed to change the world and all that), Google is undertaking another attempt at social networking. It's called Google+. Update: Forget the crap I wrote here, this article is seven pages on insider information on Google+. Surprised by the beautiful interface? It's been designed by Andy Hertzfeld. The Andy Hertzfeld.
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Google? What's that?
by pantheraleo on Tue 28th Jun 2011 23:30 UTC
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Member since:
2007-03-07

Oh right. I remember now. That's the search engine I used to use until I switched to DuckDuckGo.com because of privacy concerns with Google. And it's the email service I used to use before I switched to gmx.com because I got sick of Google scanning my private email to target advertising at me. And now it's the social networking site I won't use for the same reason I don't use Facebook.

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RE: Google? What's that?
by Spiron on Wed 29th Jun 2011 11:17 in reply to "Google? What's that?"
Spiron Member since:
2011-03-08

Are you perhaps Richard Stallman?? ;)

Seriously though, as much as Facebook does have privacy concerns, you can pretty much negate them all using well known and documented techniques.

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RE: Google? What's that?
by BiPolar on Wed 29th Jun 2011 11:34 in reply to "Google? What's that?"
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2007-07-06

gmx.com... are they the same guys behind gmx.net? Man, I used @gmx.net for years before they went all "Vee are Zee Germans!" (around 2002 they dropped support for languages other than German).

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RE[2]: Google? What's that?
by pantheraleo on Wed 29th Jun 2011 13:40 in reply to "RE: Google? What's that?"
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

gmx.com... are they the same guys behind gmx.net? Man, I used @gmx.net for years before they went all "Vee are Zee Germans!" (around 2002 they dropped support for languages other than German).


I assume they are the same. But gmx.com, and gmx.us both definitely support English.

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RE: Google? What's that?
by molnarcs on Wed 29th Jun 2011 14:56 in reply to "Google? What's that?"
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2005-09-10

Oh right. I remember now. That's the search engine I used to use until I switched to DuckDuckGo.com because of privacy concerns with Google. And it's the email service I used to use before I switched to gmx.com because I got sick of Google scanning my private email to target advertising at me. And now it's the social networking site I won't use for the same reason I don't use Facebook.


Good for you. Now tell me - have you ever suffered any damages by using any of the google services you are so adamant of staying away from? Did gmail kill your puppy or sth? What's wrong with targeted, non intrusive text only advertising?

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RE[2]: Google? What's that?
by pantheraleo on Wed 29th Jun 2011 17:10 in reply to "RE: Google? What's that?"
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

What's wrong with targeted, non intrusive text only advertising?


Email is private. End of story. Full stop. Google has no business at all scanning my private email to build an advertising profile about me. Unfortunately, there are no laws to protect consumers against this kind of thing when it comes to email, as there are with snail mail.

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RE: Google? What's that?
by Morgan on Thu 30th Jun 2011 07:57 in reply to "Google? What's that?"
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2005-06-29

Huh? gmx.com is where a LOT of the crap in my spam folder comes from. I don't think I'd be trusting them any time soon.

I've actually enjoyed the webmail interface from Tiger Technologies. It's not worth the monthly fee if all you want is webmail, but if you already host a site with them (I host two) it makes for a nice stripped-down alternative to gmail. It's fast and mostly text-based, very similar to SquirrelMail (in fact it feels like a derivative), and gives you a nice amount of control over your account. It doesn't have all of Google's advanced features of course, but those shiny baubles come at the price of your privacy.

Then there's the whole brand recognition thing. Some would argue that having a "gmail.com" address shouldn't matter either way these days, but tell that to anyone who still uses xxxx@aol.com. When gmail first started, those who had the coveted domain name were revered as alpha geeks with early invites. These days it's as common a sight as my Toyota Corolla (I always seem to have a few others around me in downtown Atlanta traffic). The day may indeed come when gmail.com is the new aol.com and the Next Big Thing in electronic messaging is in force.

Perhaps the best solution is to pay the small monthly fee for a simple shared hosting plan with email accounts included, install SquirrelMail or another adequate webmail interface to your webspace, and become you@whateveryouwant.com.

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RE[2]: Google? What's that?
by pantheraleo on Thu 30th Jun 2011 13:20 in reply to "RE: Google? What's that?"
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

Huh? gmx.com is where a LOT of the crap in my spam folder comes from.


Well, most of the spam I get actually comes from GMail addresses and Yahoo addresses. I don't think I have ever gotten any from gmx.com

I don't think I'd be trusting them any time soon.


I trust them more than I trust Google because their privacy policy explicitly states that they will never scan my email, other than scanning attachments for viruses. And their Webmail interface is pretty nice as well.

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