Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 25th Jun 2011 18:15 UTC
Opera Software Jon S. von Tetzchner has been with Opera for a long time - in fact, he co-founded the browser maker back in 1995, and led the company to great success; the desktop version may play a niche role, the various mobile versions surely do not. Today though, he has announced he will be leaving the company due to differences with the board and management.
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RE[5]: Comment by RichterKuato
by PresentIt on Wed 29th Jun 2011 21:43 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by RichterKuato"
PresentIt
Member since:
2010-02-10

We're talking about it's influence on the Web not Web Browsers. How many web developers even pay attention to Opera?

Let's see... HTML5 started out at Opera. The father of CSS works at Opera. And so on.

Yes, Opera's influence on the web has indeed been massive. Everyone is talking about HTML5 these days. That they may not be aware that HTML5 started out at Opera (and then Mozilla joined shortly after) is irrelevant.

Also, it's debatable just how much browsers copy off of Opera. For instance I believe Mozilla's tabs were actually a port of NetCaptor, which actually was the first browser to have tabs.

NetCaptor was not the first browser with tabs. And where did you get the idea that Mozilla copied it?

Why are you so extremely eager to pretend that Opera didn't massively influence both browsers and the web itself? All facts point to the contrary.

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RichterKuato Member since:
2010-05-14

I think HTML5 was a joint effort from the start. No one person or company can be credited for it. Even Ian Hickson, the guy who is often credited for it's creation, seems to confirm this:
http://www.webstandards.org/2009/05/13/interview-with-ian-hickson-e...

You're wrong. Netcaptor was indeed the first browser with Tabs. Also, David Hyatt, the guy who implemented Mozilla's tabs, said he got it from the MultiZilla extension who had basically cloned NetCaptor.
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/dave/archives/2002_09.html#002809

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PresentIt Member since:
2010-02-10

I think HTML5 was a joint effort from the start. No one person or company can be credited for it. Even Ian Hickson, the guy who is often credited for it's creation, seems to confirm this:
http://www.webstandards.org/2009/05/13/interview-with-ian-hickson-e...

Nope. It started at Opera. It wasn't called HTML5 then, and the scope was smaller. But it started at Opera, and Mozilla joined shortly after.

You're wrong. Netcaptor was indeed the first browser with Tabs.

Nope. InternetWorks had tabs before Netcaptor.

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